Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 31 2010,21:08)Irene and George,Acts 1:9-11 bears witness to the fact that Jesus was flesh and blood when he was taken up into heaven and in it two angels fortell that he will return even as he ascended.I am curious how you choose to interpret that scripture.  This actually belongs in the topic about what bodies spiritual…[Read more]

To All………….This thread is doing what all the other threads do when we start introducing other subjects into it. Fact is Paul said we have not come to that mountain to (FEAR) As they (Isrealites did) He also said (NO) flesh shall be Justified before GOD (BY) works of Law. He also said for all the law is fulfilled by (ONE) WORD “YOU SHALL…[Read more]

DK……….YA i know the original GREEK Text was written in all capital letters without Lower case lettering and no comma's at all. But if you read it straight though it still comes our Jesus was telling him (that day) that he shall (future tense) be with him in paradise and like i have said, Jesus did not go to Paradise that day he went to the…[Read more]

DK……….Ya I'm getting to be a seasoned warrior it appears.:) specially with this bunch of hard heads here I am glad you have brought out so much about the JW Org. Brother I totally agree with you on that.peace and love to you and yours DK……………………………..gene

DK………….Right on brother. Hope all is well with you and yours.peace and love…………………………….gene

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2010,16:02)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2010,22:56)To all………… NO Spirits do not have (BODIES) Common SENSE should tell you that , Not to mention Jesus own words “A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONE AS YOU SEE I HAVE> Jesus was and still is a flesh and bone Human Being and will return a rule over this world…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2010,15:21)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2010,19:08)Terricca………..Your response to Shimmer only shown you ignorance of what was being said by Her. Your are an accuser of the brethren as i told you before. Your lack of understanding the English language only causes confusion here. IMO and others also by the way.…[Read more]

To all………… NO Spirits do not have (BODIES) Common SENSE should tell you that , Not to mention Jesus own words “A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONE AS YOU SEE I HAVE> Jesus was and still is a flesh and bone Human Being and will return a rule over this world as such also. Spirit is what is (IN) a BODY Spirit is Not a BODY now or ever will…[Read more]

Georg………….Where is EDJ Wiggling out of anything? , No He was just defending your false accusation of him, implying he's a Satan or a Devil. A judgement call you are not capable of making , especially when you do the exact same thing your accusing others of. IMOgene

EDJ………….These people are the real problem here they are the instigators of all the accusation and then put on their sheep skin look and turn it around and act like others are doing it when in fact they are the instigators Just as Shimmer said. What was done to JA and Martian was wrong . IMO

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 30 2010,00:02)Those who need a law or commandment to follow have not the love of God in their heart. If they had the pure love of God, dwelling within, they could produce only the byproduct of that love. One born of God has the love of God to give out to others. A branch grafted into the tree of life partakes of the life…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Dec. 31 2010,12:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2010,12:02)Georg………..No Jesus was not a human being before he was born on earth because he never existed before his berth on earth , expect tin the plan and will of GOD. IMO peace and love………………………………………geneGeneYou're right, in your OPINION;…[Read more]

Irene………..So why was the eyes of those (witholden) from recognizing Jesus if he did not look like he always did? Please don't go off in another direction until you answer that question Specifically for a change if you can.Not one apostle ever said they did not recognize him when they were up close to him. Even Thomas did recognize him even…[Read more]

Terricca………..Your response to Shimmer only shown you ignorance of what was being said by Her. Your are an accuser of the brethren as i told you before. Your lack of understanding the English language only causes confusion here. IMO and others also by the way. peace and love………………………gene

Georg………..No Jesus was not a human being before he was born on earth because he never existed before his berth on earth , expect tin the plan and will of GOD. IMO peace and love………………………………………gene

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,12:09)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 30 2010,12:02)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 30 2010,11:42)From JustAskin…mikeboll64, you are trying to prove that Celestial means what you WANT it to mean.What does the first line in your dictionary say?Does it not align with what Paul says:”there are terrestrial bodies like Animals, fish,…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,16:24)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,00:00)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 29 2010,23:45)EdJ………….You are in error about Tyndale , the King James is a bible the is Half Catholic and Tyndale. King Jame had it translated to appease both the Catholics and the Protestants  in England, that is why there is so much confusion…[Read more]

MIke…………Your forgetting Paul said a (SPIRIT)(UAL) BODY. (IT) that body that was sown in corruption is raised in incorruption. (IT) Mike (IT) the which was the (IT) or BODY is (RAISED) a Spiritual BODY MIKE (BODY, BODY, BODY) get it. a BODY and a Spirit does (NOT) Have a BODY MIKE. Notice carefully Paul did not say a SPIRIT BODY, now did…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 30 2010,11:42)From JustAskin…mikeboll64, you are trying to prove that Celestial means what you WANT it to mean.What does the first line in your dictionary say?Does it not align with what Paul says:”there are terrestrial bodies like Animals, fish, birds and Man.And there are Celestial bodies like Sun, Moon and…[Read more]

Mike…………There is another Bible i have Just sent of For, it is a complete New Testament text written from Aramaic scriptures which predates the Greek versions the we now have , and reading the preview on it , it clarifies the many many errors of the Greek language translations that can take all kind of various meanings.The Greek language…[Read more]