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    Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,04:46)geneScripture also says there are seven horns on the lamb, and since the lamb is Jesus Christ that must mean, Jesus is a lamb with seven horns, and seven eyes.Maybe you can explain to me what this scripture means?Georg……….Glad to explain to you what the Horns represent (THEY REPRESENT POWER). But even if you…[Read more]

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    Marty……….. He said “let us (create) man, angels don't create anything, only GOD DOES. I don't doubt the angels were there, Just like people were there when He parted the sea and they escaped the Egyptians or when miracles were done by him for others and he still does them. But none of any of these Angels or any man for that matter every…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Adam …………Don't get discouraged by the insults of the ignorant brother.peace and love to you and yours………………………………gene

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    Shmmer…………That was the Spirit of GOD speaking through Jesus, God was also way with Jesus and also with those who have his spirit as his disciples, remember Jesus said He was in the Father and the Father was (IN) Him and He can we can be in each other by that same spirit that was abiding (IN) Jesus. It is all about becoming ONE by the…[Read more]

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    Mike………….Wrong, it is not my opinion There are Seven Spirit of GOD.Rev 3:1 And unto the angel (messenger) of the Church in Sardis write; These things saith (HE THAT HAS THE (SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD),…………>Rev 4:5….> AND out of the throne proceeded lightings and thunderings and voices and seven lamps of fire burning befor the throne,…[Read more]

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    Georg…………How is this any different then what i just posted. Did Jesus not say “THE WORDS I AM TELLING YOU (ARE) SPIRIT AND (ARE) LIFE.Did Jesus not say the words i am telling you (ARE NOT) (MY) (WORDS) BUT THE WORDS OF (HIM) WHO SENT ME?. Did Jesus not say, ” THE SON OF MAN COULD DO NOTHING OF HIMSELF , BUT THE FATHER (IN) ME DOES THE…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Adam………..Yes brother they have perverted the Word of GOD and Jesus, and are indeed ANTICHRISTS, and because they preach SEPARATION , THEY (ARE) AND WILL BE SEPARATED FROM JESUS BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. They have taken hook  line and Sinker the false teachings of their teachers the GNOSTIC' S and will suffer the same fate . Because they…[Read more]

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    Georg…………..It is the message , the same applies to Jesus , the Spirit produces the WORDS (intelligent utterance) and the words spoken ARE SPIRIT, NOT the person speaking those word, This applies to Jesus also, Just as it does to anyone else, rather angel or man makes no difference, it is still the Spirit (intellect) of GOD producing those…[Read more]

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    Mike…………Here is my scripture support regarding Jesus ascending (FIRST)  and then returning and was touched by his apostles.Joh 20:17……> Jesus saith unto her, TOUCH ME NOT ,FOR I AM NOT YET ASCENDED TO MY FATHER: but go to my BROTHERS, and say unto them, I (ASCEND) unto my Father and your Father, and My GOD and your GOD.Now read it and…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……….There exits no such thing as Ghosts, there never was brother, there is only two states of man he is either dead or alive, nothing in between, He can be considered to sleep (BECAUSE GOD HOLDS HIS LIFE IN HIS HANDS)(“the spirit returns back to him who gave it”) So his final destiny is in the hands of GOD and it is not over until it…[Read more]

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    Mike…………Who ever said SPIRIT are PEOPLE is that another of your false dogmas. Spirit are (INTELLECTS) which we can consider as attributes, or distinct intelligences, and there are SEVEN OF THESE SPIRIT (INTELLECTS) THAT REPRESENT ONE GOD. One of these is the SPIRIT (intellect) of the Truth given to those who have it by GOD the FATHER,…[Read more]

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    Mike…………..Just like you preexistence Morphed theory that Jesus was morphed into a human being but was a “SPIRIT” before right and then Morphed into a human , so now you try to twist scripture to say He was Morphed Back from a flesh and bone person to a SPIRIT again. PURE GARBAGE YOU NOR NO ONE ELSE CAN PRODUCE ONE SCRIPTURE THAT SAY JESUS…[Read more]

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    Mike………… In the first place who ask you to do anything for me I sure did not. Interesting Jesus said he was not a Spirit as they supposed him to be and Said a Spirit does not have flesh and bone as he had , but you say he was a spirit and then twist thing up by say i am the one not addressing scripture , You are Joke at best, IMO. So…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2011,22:07)Georg,Jesus taught us the body can be destroyed but not the soul, Matthew 10:28.  If they were the same then destroying one would destroy the other.  Only God can destroy the soul.  In additions Psalms 31:9 speak of both the soul and body growing weak with grief.Kerwin…….Problem is you taking Matt 10: 28 wr…[Read more]

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    Mike………..So who is this SON OF “MAN “that is going to return to Earth then.  Is he going to have a “BODY” or is he going to be some invisible “SPIRIT” who has no BODY. And yes scripture does say GOD does not Have a BODY , If He did then HOW was that BODY IN Jesus' BODY at the same time Jesus' Spirit was in that BODY.  Jesus also said the (…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Adam……Right scripture say in the beginning was the word and the word was with GOD and the word WAS GOD. Another words GOD and His words are one and the Same being.But IRENE say in the beginning was Jesus and the Jesus was with GOD and the JESUS was GOD, out of one side of her mouth, then say O by the way Jesus is not really a GOD. MASS…[Read more]

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    Georg…………..I realize your GLAD to be “IGNORANT” as your say. BUT then that is your problem right? Not Mine> SCRIPTURE says there (ARE) seven SPIRITS of GOD. I personally don't care if you don't believe what scripture says or not.  Scripture also say the rest of the dead do not live (UNTIL) THE THOUSAND YEARS ARE (FINISHED)> But you say…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2011,12:26)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 14 2011,03:01)If you believe Jesus now exists as a SPIRIT (BEING) Then prove it.1 Corinthians 15:45 NIVSo it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.2 Corinthians 3:17-18Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lor…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 15 2011,21:58)Gene,Have you considered the argument Jesus made to point out the Sadducees were in error on the resurrection.  If those we consider dead because their body is dead then why does God state the yet live if their essential self, aka their soul, is not living.   Scripture uses soul to mean creature in the case of t…[Read more]

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    Shimmer………..Gods Soul is the CREATION HE LIVES (IN). So in that sense He does have a Soul. GOD is spirit and lives vicariously in his creation, that is why the hidden attributes of God can be seen by the thing he has created. But GOD is no a man He is SPIRIT as Jesus' said he was. There is a real confusion in the term SOUL in scripture it in…[Read more]

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