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    Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 21 2011,14:25)You talk about fear but I ask you why there was no fear for all those who obeyed God's Laws before Jesus right from Abraham, Joseph, David and Daniel? ome of my arguments on New covenant. Please think over.Love and peace to youAdamAdam……….The “LAW” was 490 years after the Promise to Abraham we are told.…[Read more]

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    To All………..The ONLY ONE who exists as a Being outside of a BODY is GOD who can exist (IN) or (OUTSIDE) of a Body. His body is his creation he lives IN these are Temples of GOD, “KNOW YOU NOT THAT YOUR BODY IS THE (TEMPLE) OF THE LIVING GOD, LEST YOU BE A REPROBATE” , all must have Bodies with Spirit (IN) those Bodies to exist AS A SOUL, and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Irene……………If you believe as the Gnostic's did that Jesus was Not (TRULY) a Human beings coming into (EXISTENCE ) IN THE FLESH , IN (exactly the same way we do, and if you believe He was a Super Angel Morphed or another GOD or DEMIGOD Morphed in a Human Being , you are then in agreement with the (BASIC) teachings of the Gnostic's just as…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Jan. 19 2011,02:58)Eph 3:9   And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things “”by”” Jesus Christ:  Col 1:16   For “”by him”” were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be th…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2011,13:23)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2011,01:24)MIke…………Your are right it is my opinion, Just as it is Your opinion Jesus was the US and the OUR in Geneses ALSO. Do you have a Scripture that say that Jesus was the US or the OUr in Genesis”,  NO YOU DON'T> But my OPINION shows GOD can speak of Himself as a…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………..Where does scripture say they don't have bodies? Just because something is not in our spectrum of vision does not mean it does not have a body.  A body can exist in three forms in gas, liquid, or solid.  as water for instance  we are completely surrounded with water in a gas state and you can't see it , but it still is a bo…[Read more]

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    Adam……….I think the question is not the righteousness contained in the LAW, because it is righteous and even Paul acknowledged that. He says the law is holy just and Good and in another place he say the Law is Spiritual , but he was carnal etc. We all concur with that i think. But the problem in the (WAYS) , one is by forced compliance Ex…[Read more]

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    Quote (Istari @ Jan. 19 2011,03:41)Gene,You may have noticed that I have not challenged nor refuted anything you have written for a long time now.To me, you are half right. Answer me two questions:1) How is the word 'Spirit' defined?2) what did Jesus say as his final words before he died regarding his Spirit, and also Steven before he died, too?…[Read more]

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    To All………….Again Spirit is not a body it is what is (IN)  bodies. Just that simple nothing difficult about it. Difficulty come in when people try to make a SPIRIT some kind of Metaphysical body of some sorts.  The reason flesh and blood CAN NOT (ENTER) into the Kingdom of GOD , is because the KINGDOM of GOD is (SPIRITUAL) and therefore (…[Read more]

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    Istari…………..This part makes sense to me, I can see your logic, Spirit is omnipresent can exist in all at the same time, “that God may be in and and through all” I still do not believe Spirits are (beings) because to me a being must have a Body + Spirit (IN) it in order to exist as a (BEING) except GOD who creates thought in his created…[Read more]

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    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 18 2011,12:18)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,10:27)Marty……….. He said “let us (create) man, angels don't create anything, only GOD DOES. I don't doubt the angels were there, Just like people were there when He parted the sea and they escaped the Egyptians or when miracles were done by him for others and he still…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2011,13:46)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,10:39)Speaking of Jesus.Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2011,13:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,03:07)Mike………….Wrong, it is not my opinion There are Seven Spirit of GOD.Gene,It IS your OPINION that God was talking to His seven spirits in Genesis 1:26.  That's what I was saying.  Can't you read?  You do this crap all the time.  I didn't say it was your opi…[Read more]

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    Tim Kraft…………….Good Post brother, we are indeed renewed by the renewing of our minds, “being transformed by the renewing of our minds”. peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 18 2011,13:28)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,08:20)Georg…………..It is the message , the same applies to Jesus , the Spirit produces the WORDS (intelligent utterance) and the words spoken ARE SPIRIT, NOT the person speaking those word, This applies to Jesus also, Just as it does to anyone else, rather angel or…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2011,11:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,11:05)Mike………….Even if you use the word “cling”, then why did he allow Thomas to “cling” on him afterwards then. Or are you switching word to fit you dogmas again> That would be the real question here. IMOpeace and love……………………………….geneNo…[Read more]

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    Georg…………..I use Intellect, you use mind, Some thoughts, but it is all produced by what we called Spirit. I put intellect next to spirit to force the text to be clearer, because many think Spirit is a PERSON or Angel of some kind. But i do agree it (spirit) is in the Mind. And (IT) Gods Spirit (intellect) was definitely (IN) Jesus' MIND,…[Read more]

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    Mike………….Even if you use the word “cling”, then why did he allow Thomas to “cling” on him afterwards then. Or are you switching word to fit you dogmas again> That would be the real question here. IMOpeace and love……………………………….gene

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    Georg…………..O really, i guess they just forgot to write Jesus in there right. No problem you people can write it there yourselves right? If you will take tome to look up the word BY, just like the Word Through you can see where it is translated 40-70 absolute different way, So where would the error more then likely be in Genesis or Col…[Read more]

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    Mike…………As i have said before you can't corner a snake in a brier patch. Mike truth is (NOT) what you are after here , you want just you version of truth> SLICK must say> Your practice is very diabolical though as JA has said. IMOpeace and love……………………………gene

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