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    Mike……………Actually Jesus did not speak (FOR) GOD at all, GOD Spoke (THROUGH) Him. Just like He spoke (Through) the Prophets. Or do you doubt GOD spoke through the Prophets, Now if GOD spoke through the Prophets as he did Jesus , does that then make the Prophets the word of GOD also.”FOR GOD AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE PAST SPOKE TO US…[Read more]

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    Mike………….You mixing up Spirits with Beings, Spirit are NOT BEINGS, Spirit is (INTELLECT) of the MIND, If a person has a (ADVERSARIAL) SPIRIT (IN) him HE OR SHE IS A SATAN. Just as Peter was when he confronted Jesus, and Jesus said to him get behind me Satan. Jesus was not kidding or meaning someone else when he called Peter a Satan, he…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Again i have not problem of someone Speaking someone else's words and Him saying these are not my word but the word of him who sent me. God also Spoke through the Prophets so we also could say they were the Word of GOD also right? Don't know what is so hard to understand about that. None of those then or now who speak GOD Word…[Read more]

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    Quote (Wispring @ Mar. 18 2011,11:38)Hi Gene,   I may be wrong, but, i think you have your can's and cant's in the above post placed wierdly…typo's?premaritally? Do you mean permanantly?                                               With Love and Respect,                                                         WispringWispring….…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 18 2011,21:57)IT WAS ALWAYS A QUESTION OF AUTHORITYJesus told the Pharisees: “And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.” But he said of his disciples: “I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because THEY ARE NOT OF THE WORLD, (ARE YOU READY…[Read more]

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    Mike…………I never contested the fact Jesus Spoke God's Word to Us , i have alway said that before you were ever on the site. But when you or other try to make Jesus the WORD HIMSELF by implying HE is THE WORD of GOD, that is where you teachings start to falter, and when you start inserting the word Jesus for “the Word” in John 1:1, is a…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2011,12:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 16 2011,07:52)Mike………No Jesus did not teach, a man can kill you but not your soul, that is you addition to what he said. He said Man could not (destory) the Soul , he did not say he could not Kill it. You getting Kill mixed up with Destroy they are  not the same word.…[Read more]

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    Paladin………..you have presented it right and accurately Keep up the good work. Maybe some here will begin to understand and become more sound in the true Faith. I know it is hard and does take a lot of time to expound these things clearly but i do believe it is worth it brother. IMOpeace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Mike………..So how does a WORD appear as FLESH seeing you truly believe a Word CAN Be FLESH tell us what it looks like as FLESH. I full well know a Word can Be (IN) A FLESH and Blood Person but i have yet to see a real FLESH WORD> Can you tell us where one is. I read those scriptures as the Word of GOD or GOD'S Word came to be (IN) Christ…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 17 2011,00:28)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 14 2011,04:44)PART – V(SF) So what doesnt make sense to me is why do you ignore clear evidence that Jesus pre-existed and took a role as a creator.I will try again to explain it. You cannot (despite your best efforts) begin at the back of the book and correct the front of the book.…[Read more]

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    Mike.,Mike , Mike………Your still screwed up in the meaning of the words TESTED and PROVED mixing them up with the word TEMPTED. Tested and Proved are similar in meaning. While TEMPTED has a completely different meaning, temping means to entice. While Test and Prove is a process of obtaining PROOF as when we TEST Childern to PROVE what they…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 16 2011,14:21)Are you including the Son of God in this statement?  Didn't Jesus himself teach that man can only kill the body but not the soul?Mike………No Jesus did not teach, a man can kill you but not your soul, that is you addition to what he said. He said Man could not (destory) the Soul , he did not say he could…[Read more]

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    To ALL ……….So much for what someone else says but we are talking Scripture Here not what some one think he feels about souls and spirits. (MAN) i.e ADAM (came to be) a LIVING SOUL when SPIRIT was added INTO HIM> nothing more and nothing less a complete MAN is a LIVING SOUL as long as he is alive and if he dies he ceases to be a soul a…[Read more]

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    Mike……The reason you find psuche for soul and pneuma for Spirit is because the GREEKS SEPARATED the Body and Soul and Spirit as you do, And this is what injects their pagan beliefs into scriptures. But the Hebrew Language has only ONE word for SOUL and that is the complete being. Again David made this very clear to you and all of us. The…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 14 2011,12:44)All that nonsense only serves to demonstrate your lack of bible knowledge, my friend, and it does not help your argument at all.We know that the doctrine you just quoted claims sin comes down through Adam, and not the woman. That is because of ignorance, and nothing else. Look at how scripture tells such a…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Well so much for your “it don't say thing” and if it don't Say why try to force it to Say then?. But one thing i want you to do for me OK?, go and check out the word SOUL used in the New Testament and please notice it is the same word used as Spirit, the Greek thought renders the soul and spirit as the same thing and considers it…[Read more]

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    Paladin………You have it right brother, but MYSTERY RELIGION has blinded their eyes and they can't understand this, they have bought into the lie that false “Christianity” has created of a “spirit body” by misunderstanding the words 'Spiritual Bodies”, the simple truth has no place in them. They must make everything into some kind of Mystery…[Read more]

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    Mike………..The body departs into the grave and the Spirit departs to God who gave it According to scripture. but not mention of a so called (separate) soul now where does scripture say it goes if you believe the soul departs where does it go to, the NEITHER WORLD? OF WHERE? Jesus did not seen to think a soul and a Body and Spirit were…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Is Hell eternal? 15 years, 5 months ago

    EdJ…..You have it right, Judgment bring with it correction and then Justice is served. And it is eternal in this sense, that the judgments of GOD NEVER CHANGE, right is eternally right, wrong is eternally wrong. It is us who MUST CHANGE not GOD. There truly is eternal Judgements and this is a Fire from GOD , who “IS THE CONSUMING FIRE”. The…[Read more]

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    Mike…………If you consider a Soul as a (COMPLETE BEING) body+ Spirit………then when either are separated the Soul is departing or gone, that person no longer exists as a Soul any longer. It can be the body or the spirit either one parting destroys the Soul when they are separated you are no longer a BEING OF ANY KIND when that takes…[Read more]

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