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    To All………..This thread was started to show that GOD Himself was the US and OUR mentioned in Genesis , Notice how creation starts off by God being presented as a singular form, but when it comes to Man God takes the plural form, I believe this to be because six of the seven Spirits of GOD were used in the creation of MAN , Man is a Higher…[Read more]

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    Terraricca…………….Don't you believe Jesus was truly dead?. It would make him a liar if he was not dead, because he said he was right?. And you and I both know it say “the dead Know nothing in the day they die their thoughts parish”> If your thoughts parish you parish, because nothing more makes you you then you thoughts. We are in a state…[Read more]

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    Terricca………..You are misquoting what Jesus said to Pilot, Pilot ask a question “are you a king” and Jesus replied (YOU) Say i am , but Jesus said TO (THIS) END, I was born and for THIS Cause came I into the world THAT I SHOULD BEAR WITNESS UNTO THE TRUTH,. Another word Pierre in simple English Jesus said Pilot was saying that. but he was…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 5 months ago

    Wispring ………….You have it right, a BODY + SPIRIT = a SOUL Just that simple, any separation of these and a Soul no longer exists.peace and love………………………………………………..gene

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    MIke………….Why twist what Jesus said , He said a Spirit did (NOT) have a BODY as HE Has. What part of that you are unable to comprehend? Spirit is what is (IN) a BODY it is never a BODY it only lives (IN) Bodies. “GOD IN ALL AND THROUGH ALL” He doesn't do that with a BODY because GOD is a SPIRIT as Jesus said, and Spirits do not have…[Read more]

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    Mike………..If you had read (ALL) of Jodi's explanation of that you would know the answer, Man is the Serpent who goes about to serve his own Belly appetites and return to the dust in which he cam. The Worm Jesus referenced was this subtle nature in man and it Must die or it will be burned (recieve Intense Judgment ) until it does.This spirit…[Read more]

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    TO Again……..The problem is most do not understand what SPIRIT (IS) It is Not a Body it is, (simply put), the intellect (IN) a Body. Once you come to understand that then many scriptures become clear. Jesus plainly said He was NOT a SPIRIT, and that a Spirit does NOT Have a BODY as HE HAD> Spirit is the engine of the Body so to speak, any Body…[Read more]

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    Wispring………..Don't be pulled of track by some Here IMO , Jesus was Prophesied  to come into existence at a certain time , He was not a Sentinel Being of any kind until he was Born into existence by Mary, even though He was as good as alive because of GOD'S WORDS before he ever truly existed. Even Jesus when describing Himself used all the…[Read more]

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    Mike……………NO……..Because you are making the (TITLE) the BEING, So in this instance it is NO . GOD'S Word is GOD'S WORD not JESUS' WORDS> If you say Jesus was SPEAKING GOD'S WORD to US the answer is YES. Here is what you are doing , The car is a Falcon or Cougar, or Mustang Tell me do you see and animal or a car. GET it”, a TILE…[Read more]

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    Mike……….. Where did i say it was (THEIR) OWN INTELLECT not Spirit (intellect) is a persons alone all spirit is given by GOD to Exist. That includes the SPIRIT of an ADVERSARY That Adversarial Spirit is necessary for us to draw comparisons and reasoning with, when it is contrary to GOD we must Master it and can with the (Spirit of Truth) the…[Read more]

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    Terricca………..So in you theology Jesus was a Liar, because He (REALLY) was not dead right, even though He said He WAS DEAD. So your interruption of DEAD , does not mean DEAD it seems. But still alive in some kind of life shift. And where scripture say a Soul that sins it shall Parish you say no it can't Parish BECAUSE IT is still alive even…[Read more]

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    Quote (Paladin @ Mar. 21 2011,09:39)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 21 2011,02:57)Paladin……….Many here do not believe in the Trinity, but they believe in the preexistence of Jesus before his berth on earth, they thin he was a demigod or Super Angel or some kind of Being, i don't think i have them ever elaborate on what kind of Being he was or…[Read more]

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    Paladin……….Many here do not believe in the Trinity, but they believe in the preexistence of Jesus before his berth on earth, they think he was a demigod or Super Angel or some kind of Being, i don't think i have heard them ever elaborate on what kind of Being he was or post any factual scriptures showing any activity of that preexisting…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2011,01:07)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 19 2011,06:30)To All……….why can't we simply get a clear and sound understanding about something as simple as the word Soul? It is clearly spelled out in scripture as a COMPLETE BEING , His Body AND Spiirt.Hi Gene,It is also “clearly spelled out in scripture” as being separate…[Read more]

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    Mike……….The Great Dragon is the Force behind all of it, that force is not a BEING but a SPIRIT (intellect) that is (IN) Beings . Just as this adversarial Spirit (intellect) was in Peter and Judas and the Pharisees, it can also be in Angels as well. Your problem is you simply do not know what Spirit really (IS). IMO gene

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    Mike……..Question 1……….yes you can call a person a spokesman a mouth piece or the (CALL HIM OR HER) anything you want to but that does NOT MAKE THAT PERSON WHAT YOU CALL HIM OR SHE NOW DOES IT. So if Jesus is Called the Word of GOD that Still doesn N OT MAKE THE WORD themselves of GOD no more then if you or I were CALLED the WORD of GOD…[Read more]

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    To All……….why can't we simply get a clear and sound understanding about something as simple as the word Soul? It is clearly speed out in scripture as a COMPLETE BEING , His Body AND Spiirt. Take all the four hundred or so places it is mentioned and put it all together and you get a complete Person is a Living Soul if he is alive and if he…[Read more]

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    To All…….>The Spirit of an ADVERSARY or Satan, is simply another word that can and is Personalized in scripture, just the same way as Wisdom is call a She. These are simply (distinct attributes) of Spirits (INTELLECTS) that can be part of our mental makeups. By not understanding what Spirit in its simplest form is , is a major stumbling block…[Read more]

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    Paladin………Don't let them get to you down brother, they simply do not understand it has not been given unto them. They simple go around chasing their own tails in circles never coming to any sound understanding.You have done a great Job explaining it to them, but if it ain't there it just ain't there Brother. Just the blind leading the blind.…[Read more]

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    Mike………….Angels can have an ADVERSARIAL Spirit in them just as you or I or anyone else can. And if they are following that Spirit then they are serving it and will be cast down from there position just as anyone who is following it will. As far as rulers go what ever a man or angel is overcome by rules him. Rather the Spirit (intellect) of…[Read more]

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