Mike………..So you right all this about rewriting scripture right , But you have no problem saying Jesus (Is) the Logos written in John 1:1. Making him a preexistent being. even though the word Jesus is not even mentioned there. So who rewrites scriptures to fit their dogmas. And because you misunderstand scriptures that have been explained to…[Read more]

Wispring ………….No i don't think we are counteracting each other I just lump it together and you have broken it down seem to be what is going on. I see God , his Spirit, His Logos as one and the same thing that can indwell us just as it indwells Jesus. Were not that far apart brother. IMOpeace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 15 2011,09:40)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 15 2011,15:00)Terriccia……….You original scriptures are inspired by GOD , but those who interpret them may not necessarily be. Another thing no where doe it say the five wise were waiting for it (the oil in their flasks) they had it already, it was in them and it supplied…[Read more]

Terriccia……….You original scriptures are inspired by GOD , but those who interpret them may not necessarily be. Another thing no where doe it say the five wise were waiting for it (the oil in their flasks) they had it already, it was in them and it supplied the Light (intellect or spirit) in them , there bodies are symbolic for their vessels…[Read more]

Wispring………….I describe Spirit as the cognitive ability which is intellect to me. For instance the Spirit of Truth is the cognitive ability or power to understand truth when you hear it. Remember when Jesus told his disciples not to leave Jerusalem until they recieved power from on high. This “power” gives enlightment or cognition into…[Read more]

To All………….All who want to separate Jesus from themselves and their exact identity will indeed get separated from Him, by their own words, they have done this, they can't blame it on no one but their own selves, my appeal to all who have bought into the Preexistence LIE is to repent now while there is time. It is sorrowful to me that some…[Read more]

To All………..”The kingdom of God is likened unto to ten Virgins, five were wise and five were foolish” , the wise took oil or fuel with them for their lamps IMOpeace and love to you ALL…………………………………gene

Wispring ……..i basically see it that way also. with possible one exception, I believe the GOD is SPIRIT or LOGOS that they are on and the same thing. Remember Jesus said that “they Father was IN him” i know this could be the LOGOS and i do agree with that but i also believe the LOGOS was the GOD that created everything and is Present in all…[Read more]

Mike………..Again you are trying to apply Metaphorical language to Literal language. Spirit is Thought, lets say you want to send to me your spirit or intellects or thoughts , about something. You would speak or write a common used WORD that i can understand and by these you would form in me the idea you were sending to me. So them I could…[Read more]

Mike………..I believe like Jodi said it could well be that Adam himself decieved Eve into taking to themselves to decide what was good and evil themselves, it may be by the fact that this nature was part of the very creation of man this Adversarial Spirit could have been present in them both all along and is present in all mankind Now. I…[Read more]

Mike………..That is why i have said that the Trinitarians and the Preexistence are from the same view point concerning the preexistence of Jesus , Irene got upset with me on that saying i was calling her a Trinitarian , i was not calling her that, but as Paladin brought out the preexistence teaching is the same overall teachings of the…[Read more]

Wispering …….. So what you wrote above does agree with my prior post right because that is exactly what i said. That is the way i have always seen it, i do believe the Logos is the spirit of God that was living (IN) Jesus and can be in us also, it is the common denominator . Spirit (IS) Logos and a word is defined as Intelligent Utterance ,…[Read more]

Paladin…………….I am interested as i do not believe Jesus preexisted his berth on earth as any kind of Sentinel Being and this false teaching has perverted the true Gospel of GOD and his intervention and involvement in human beings, it is a teaching that separates Jesus from our Exact identity. This belief is in my opinion is the Spirit…[Read more]

Wispering……..What you are saying i believe, is the Logos is the concept and Reema is the word that describe that concept. So the Concept is the Intellect (produced by Spirit) in our minds, the LOGOS, and Reema is the words we used to describe it right?peace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene

Paladin………So i had it backward, Reema is the Spirit (intellect) of things which comes or is transfered into Existence as Logos. Right?. I do believe this is important to get right brother. So please bear with me on this till i get it, i have never dealt with this before brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………….gene

Pierre………I know there are thousand of aspect and facets of Love, in fact that is the reason i started this thread there are some many aspect of the word Love people lose the simple understand of what Love really is. some think it is a emotion , some think it is Knowledge and some what ever> While Love have all the aspects and facets to it .…[Read more]

Wispering……….I don know , i thing your describing of the book as a Body of Knowledge, is more a reference to the Physical Book the the words in it. Spirit to me is more like a string of knowledge, that can enter our minds or leave them. they have not bodies at all. Notice what Jesus said , When a unclean Spirit leaves a man it goes about in…[Read more]

Mike……….What your not understanding is and what Paladin is trying to bring out is that GOD'S LOGOS (WORDS) became REEMA in Christ Jesus , not that Jesus was the Logos OF GOD , Jesus was the REEMA of GOD , another word Jesus was the impressed writing of GOD and we also can be the same impressed writing of the Logos of GOD, buy the Logos of…[Read more]

Wispring ………….I am not sure if i am following what you are saying, about the table thing. i have a hard time understanding things unless they are in very simple terms, i believe this Logos and Reema thing is very important to understand clearly. The way i am getting it is Logos is the driving Force of the concepts (spirits) while the…[Read more]

Mike…………Yes it was lopsided, because i anticipated a sarcastic response from you Mike, and reacted accordingly. It was a mistake on my part i owe you and Paladin an apology for that and i do apologize for it. Don't need more of you Character assassination Mike, so drop it OK, as any real descent Monitor would do. IMOpeace and…[Read more]