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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Mike………..In (the) beginning , the as you know is a definite article, right?, so we must establish which beginning we are talking about here, I propose it is the very beginning of (all ) things , why?, because if it were relating to a different beginning the definite article (THE) would not be used there, but a specific article would have…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Mike………….Gods seed that produces a son is the Spirit or Logos that is (IN) Jesus or anyone who has it. John says concerning a Christian , “NOW YOU ARE THE SONS OF THE LIVING GOD”, and again Paul says “know you Not that your bodies are the temple of the living GOD”. I still see God and His Word as one and the Same and He was truly (IN )…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Istari @ May 17 2011,03:59)Poor you, Irene. You will carry your delusion with you forever.The reason you don't 'goggle' (sic) is because you HAVE DONE IT – and found you were WRONG.So, to maintain your 'wrongness' you make out that you don't need to check – ha! Irene, you make yourself into a God, then!!'No Interpretation is given to one…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Shimmer …………..Good Post little one, there will certainly be Physical Bodies in the resurrection of the saints, just like the Body Jesus now enjoys and has. I believe this may take place sooner then we think sis. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Paladin………..Just for my clarification, Jesus said GOD was a Spirit, as i believe you also believe, then he said , The “WORDS” i am telling you ARE spirit and life. My problem is separating GOD from His word, it is like trying to separate a man from his words. Jesus also said the Father was in Him. This show the very presents of GOD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ May 15 2011,02:53)peace back to you………………………..geneGene! Two wrongs will never, I mean NEVER make a RIGHT….Your logic lacks wisdom…..About Adam, you really think so low of t8 that He takes sides… And banns Adam for nothing??? I don't believe that for a second….But then its Gene talking….Peace…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 15 2011,03:49)FULLY God? Here's some of what the NETNotes scholars say about their own translation:Thus the translation “the Word was fully God” was chosen because it is more likely to convey the meaning to the average English reader that the Logos is one in essence with God the Father.Mike……….The word or LOGOS is f…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Pastry @ May 15 2011,01:31)Why do you have to return the insults Gene…. is it so important for you to do that? peace IreneIrene………Unto the kind God shows himself kind, unto the forward God shows himself forward, or do you think you people can throw out insults on others and abuse them but recieve back non from them. That is a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Istari @ May 14 2011,21:43)To all: 1 Corinthians 15:44 says, 'It is sown a natural body, it is raised a Spiritual Body'.Please explain this verse in your own 'mind language'.What BODY was Jesus 'sown' in?What BODY was Jesus 'Raised' in?Was the BODY Jesus was raised in the same PHYSICAL FLESH body he died in.'For God did not will to see his…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ May 14 2011,13:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 14 2011,12:19)Hi Shimmer,So then you are devoid of sin? You personally have NO sin at all that separates you from God?You miss my point……………perhaps on purpose. Let me try another example to drive my point home. (Note: This is the time when certain people here claim, “I ans…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (shimmer @ May 13 2011,13:21)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 13 2011,12:31)Well, he fell down, cried, and bowed before an angel. He also helped an angel measure New Jerusalem with a measuring rod. All these things are things that can't be done without a body.He was also able to see the souls of those who had been beheaded for Christ under the a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Paladin @ May 13 2011,21:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2011,12:07)That's a cop-out Marty. I posted words straight out of the scriptures, and you joked about my “vivid imagination”. Stop joking for a minute and SHOW ME the thing I posted that is NOT the words of the scriptures.Mike, when God istructed Adam in the garden, and Adam passed o…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Istari @ May 12 2011,04:21)Gene,And God is a Spirit.To all……….Yes GOD is a Spirit, and Spirits are (NOT)the Bodies they live (IN) both now and in the future. And GOD does have a body it is his creation that he lives in and through given it life. Again No Spiirt has a body it needs a body to animate and live in and through, or it is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Istari @ May 11 2011,05:46)Gene,So… Spirit is useless unless it is in a body to animate it…you say.And you also say,'God is a Spirit'….Gene, it is a good thing that God forgives such errors!Moreover, no one ever said that a 'Body of any kind is a Spirit' – you make up your own error then attribute that error to others!You are right…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The spirit of Antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Terricca…………..It is not i who do not understand those scriptures it is you my friend, because your have not understood what they truly mean, Do you even Know what the CHRISTOS (IS) or what John meant when he said “THIS IS THE SPIRIT OF “ANTICHRIST. How can you if you do not even know what SPIRIT Is . John was not only talking about…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ May 10 2011,14:39)GeneQuote Terricca………..Again with the Character Assignations and insults, Seem to be your expertise here as it was when you first started. Paladin has taken every effort to clearly explain exactly what he was saying and been extremely patient taking your insults as he has done with all who are here.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Istari @ May 10 2011,06:46)Gene,The quote is not 'God made his Angel's Spirits'.It is 'God made his Angels Spirits' : He made his Spirit to be Messengers.He could have made MANKIND his 'Angels'/'Messengers' but He chose to make His Messengers those from the Spirit class.I don't think there is anyone else who has ever misinterprets that…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Mike………….God not only Created the Spirits (IN) his Angels, but He created the Spirits (IN) us also. What do you think it means “the Spirit returns to GOD who gave it”, when we die?> Again Angels, humans like you and I and Jesus have bodies Spirits do NOT, They are what dwells (IN) bodies, GOD who is Spirit was truly (IN) Jesus. Just as…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ May 10 2011,09:41)Quote (Paladin @ May 10 2011,15:22)Quote (terraricca @ May 09 2011,11:29)Quote (942767 @ May 09 2011,17:30)Hi:The following verses of scripture have been given by those who propose that Jesus pre-existed as a sentient person prior to his birth into this world.Col 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 3 months ago
Mike…………..How about where God said he would bring forth Jesus from among their brethren the Isrealites. Now where does it say He would bring forth a “Preexisting Being”?, no not any scripture nor did anyone else say that So if you say Jesus preexisted his berth one earth then the burden of (PROOF) belongs to you not us to prove he did…[Read more]
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