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    Adam……Jodi and I have quoted the Old Testament  scriptures to you directly ,over and over,  but you are simply refusing to believe them.  There are many scriptures that support the fact that Jesus is the Messiah.  But you have given yourself over to the Jews and are becoming one of them,  you seem to forget they were the ones rejecting Jesus ri…[Read more]

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    Carmel…….Jesus is the “first born of “MANY” brethren”,  Scripture plainly says that>  Jesus called himself the “SON OF MAN” around 80 times in the scriptures.  So I don’t think it’s a stretch of the imagination to say, the “man” Jesus  died for our sins, now is it?

    peace and love to you and yours Carmel……….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 3 years ago

    Adam……that right the term “freewill ” is an “OXYMORON “,  there exists no such thing as a “freewill”.  No Will is “free” of what is influencing it.  Therefore it is written, ” God WORKS in us “BOTH” to “WILL” and do of “HIS”  good pleasure.

    peace and love to you and yours Adam………gene

     

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    Adam,   Jodi is exactly right, in what she wrote to you.   Jesus was the “prophesied ” word  of God , that came true, ” God’s word spoken through the prophets”,  became true, by Jesus coming into his “only existence ” He ever had  on this earth.   He was a prophesied human being, just like Cyrus was ,who was prophesied and even named by God , 20…[Read more]

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    Carmel……Good “copout”; .  You simply can’t catch a snake in a Breyer patch.

    peace and love to you and yours ………..gene

     

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    Danny,  what Berean wrote in the last Part of his post above is true for us as well as “the man” Jesus Christ also.

    Isaiah 4: 8……”But now O LORD, you are our Father, we are the clay, you are the potter, and we are the work of thy hand. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be “of God”.…[Read more]

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    Carmel……truly I never saw anyone add words and thought to our scripture more then you,  you change and corrupted almost every scripture you quote.  Making them say what they are not even hinting at.  To show everyone here how much you do that, here “just” two,  good example .

    John 17: 3-4…. And this is life eternal, that they might know ” YOU”  t…[Read more]

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    Danny…..Yes we are to grow in the grace and the knowledge,  that Jesus Christ had, about the Father Our God.  So we can come to have a exact relationship with the Father as Jesus had and has.  Remember what scriptures say,  ” until we all come to the,  Measure and ” FULL” STATURE OF CHRIST “

    Danny go read what I wrote about who is your [Read more]

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    To all,  did you know that, that all of the  American founding Father were ” UNITARIANS “, yes those who wrote and framed our “Declaration of independence ”  and our “bill of rights” WERE , UNITARIANS,  they were all deist’s, Men like John Adams , Thomas Jefferson,  and nearly all the original founding Fathers were,

    In fact Thomas Jeffers…[Read more]

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    Berean…….what about where God said, “you shall have “no” other GOD , besides me” ?

    peace and love to you and yours Berean………gene.

     

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    Carmel……By a “man” sin entered into this world, and by a man it had to be paid for. It was paid for , by the “MAN” , JESUS CHRIST.  Not a half man/ half God man , as you falsely preach, but by a second Adam who I believe scriptures show,  was a real man.  You have never shown us a single scripture that says Jesus was half man and half God.  That’s…[Read more]

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    Adam….. Jodi and I are both right brother.  I am  a Unitarian,   a deist ,  as my words have always shown.  I believe in “one God”, or mediator between God And men, the “MAN” Jesus Christ “.  I believe in the Shema “hear O Israel, the LORD our GOD is “ONE” LORD” , I also believe exactly what Jesus himself clearly said,  “Father, this is life ete…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer and Carmel………In God we “all” existed before.  We are the fulfillment of God the Fathers plan and we’re preordained before we and everything else ever existed.

    When Jesus said , “no, “MAN”   “Can”,  ascend up into heaven except he who descended from heaven,  He was speaking of mankind ,  Jesus was A “Son of man” and therefore a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer……God sent Jesus “into” the world,  does not mean he sent him from outside the earth into this world,  it means he sent him from “IN” the world, to go out “INTO”  the world,  to preach  the Gospel of the kingdom of God.   JESUS also sent the apostles out into the world to preach the same gospel.  It means to be sent forth throughout…[Read more]

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    Berean…….Remember when you give the communions,  to remind them what the words “eat” and “drink” mean.  It is exactly what you do when you eat and drink something,  you are taking it,  “TO”,  “YOURSELF’ .  We must all do that with the Sacrifice of Jesus for us all.

    peace and love to you and yours Berean………gene

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    Proclaimer……It not about what God, “COULD DO” or “CAN DO”,  it’s about what he “DID DO” , right? ,  your looking at “ORDINARY”, mankind  in a nothing sense , only shows you disregard for MANKIND and even the work of God himself. Did God not say he “created us in his ‘image”?, What your missing is how  “Great a work God the Father can do”, in and…[Read more]

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    Carmel……If I were doing the Fathers Will “only” And not my own Will,  I could say the same thing Jesus said, “if you see ME are seeing the Father.  It’s all about who’s Will is being done,  yours or the Fathers. Remember what Jesus said?,   ” the Son of man , came not to do “HIS” WILL, but the Will of him who “SENT HIM” ,  you haven’t figur…[Read more]

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    Danny……..It is and was  God ““the Father  “in” Jesus that worked the salvation of this whole earth.  I do believe “the man” Jesus is the Lamb” God the Father”,  sacrificed for the sins of the whole human race.

    2 Cor 5:16-20 …..wherefore henceforth know we “NO MAN”,  after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now hen…[Read more]

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    Berean……. Think of all the “Love and Faith”,  Jesus had in His God and Our God, his Father and Our Father.  Even to the point of giving up his very life in obedience to him.  I say to you,  think on that and strive to have that same love that Jesus had for the Father in yourself also brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………..gene

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    Carmel……it was God doing it “in” Jesus,  or haven’t you read,   “The Father who is ‘in’ me , “HE” does the work.”  Which only proves that the Father is indeed “greater” the Jesus is.

    Carmel,  read this ,  you remind me of the Church at Ephesus,  they did all those great works in the name of Jesus they were in modern terms,  a “perfect”  Church,…[Read more]

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