MIke………..Yes there is and it means anything “FUNCTIONING” BY SPIRIT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A SPIRIT “BODY”, because non exists, SPIRITS ARE WHAT IS (IN) and (OUT) BODIES , THEY THEMSELVES ARE NOT BODIES NOR CAN EXIST AS A LIVING SOUL OUTSIDE A BODY EITHER. I thought you said you believe what Jesus said, God's body he lives (IN) is His…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2011,03:56)Yes Gene,I am senseless when my Lord says “I came down from heaven” and I believe him.I am senseless to believe Paul and John when they say everything was created through him.I am senseless to believe my Lord when he says he is the beginning of the creation of God.No………….wait a minute…[Read more]

Wj…………Right, was that when he was GOD disguised as a Man , can you tell for what Purpose would GOD even do that in the first place, was it to Show us a man can Be GOD Himself or to fool us into thinking that man could become a GOD. Your religion like the Preexistences has not rhyme or reason for GOD to do anything the way you assert. Tell…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2011,03:37)Well, what do ya know?  That's what I've been saying ever since your hero made his inaccurate statement about the imperfect tense of “echo” in the first place.  Mike……….. Why LIE , you have been saying it is (A) Perfect Tense by saying it was directing a “PERFECT TENSE”, ABOUT JESUS PREEXISTENCE LIFE A…[Read more]

Mike……….I would not put down WJ to much if i were you , Your false teaching of a Preexistent Jesus as a “MORPHED ANGEL” is no less senseless as His is that Jesus was a “MORPHED GOD” OF SOME KIND, both of your are equally as wrong both are false teachings, IMO

Istari……………Mike so confused he doesn't know if he is foot or horseback, He can't even understand that a Spirit (IS) Not a BODY, so how can he answer you , and If he agree then his Pride and his House of cards comes crashing down. But Pride and arrogances is what it is at stake here with him so don't expect a direct answer he has none..…[Read more]

Mike……….”AT (that) TIME”,  is the qualifier for  the “TIME” they “HAD”.  It clarifies   “echo” to us. Echo is then in that case a Perfect tense because of the words “at that time”. Jesus did not use it that way, He said the Glory He had  Before the World was, could be a Present Glory as Paladin expressed and if it was a Glory afforded  him…[Read more]

Mike…………I hardly call what you say and your Stupid Gestures as ADULT, if anyone is acting like a Child Here it is definitely You. You can't even carry on an intelligent conversation without childish antics like Large lettering or stupid Icons as if that give you any creditability.You appear more like a court Jester to anyone with any true…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 04 2011,07:16)Mike,You know you have lost the discussion so you drift into accusations.Why not just answer the question if you feel you are correct. Why are you afraid to answer a 'simple' question?If a Spirit has a Body then what is the SPIRIT in that BODY?See, Mike, no matter how you try to cut it you still do not answer -…[Read more]

MIke…………Your desperation is obvious , Paladin is right in what he presented, Your simply can't admit the truth when it is right in front of your face. Making Large letters and using stupid Icons to try to belittle and FORCE you DOGMAS on others is the only extent of you intelligence it seem lately. Just admit the Truth YOU ARE AS WRONG AS…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2011,12:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2011,08:43)Istari…………..He can't answer that question because it would contradict what he was saying. Mike is a Shall Gamer switching around and diverting attention away from sound truths.Says the person who thinks angels DO have bodies, but won't accept that angels ARE…[Read more]

Istari…………I agree , Mike tries to ridicule others to hide his own ignorance that he has acquired from a past of preconceived ideologies as nearly all preexistences and Trinitarians do. Paladin is definitely a GOD send to this site, and we all need to listen more closely and that includes me also. He expounds the Greek more perfectly then…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ July 03 2011,08:55)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2011,02:02)These are your words, Paladin:“If in fact, Jesus had prior glory, and now does not, but asks to have it again, the tense would not be “imperfect” for the “imperfect” references action that was continuous.” But that is INCORRECT, isn't it Paladin?  The imperfect tense does…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 03 2011,02:13)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2011,08:21)Mike…….If it was just a matter of the word by it self that could mean as you say many different ways. However it is not (IN) the sentence Peter said that way now is it? . Peter says it this way Jesus was “FOREORDAINED”  (but)  WAS “MANIFESTED” in our time.Gene, W…[Read more]

Paladin………… You have explained it right brother, Jesus indeed is the recipient of the Covenant promised to Abraham. I see it that way also and I also believe God himself is the only Creator of that Covenant and all who believe GOD as Abraham and Jesus can also be heirs and are enjoined to that same covenant also. It all works by Faith in…[Read more]

Marty……..Good post brother.peace and love……………………………….gene

Quote (Ed J @ July 02 2011,10:58)Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2011,08:03)Hi WJ,Here is John's record of Jesus' account on equality…My Father is greater than I. (John 14:28)How do you account for this non-equality?Looking forward to your answer regarding this   … in Bizzaro World Doctrines, for the record !HI WJ,Still waiting for your answer…   .…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 02 2011,07:31)Why do you seek to diminish who and what Jesus is rather than exalt him in your mind to the highest place where he is?WJ………See Jesus is your GOD and is in the “HIGHEST PLACE” in YOUR mind. But Jesus believed GOD the Father was in the 'HIGHEST PLACE” IN his mind. at least that is what he Said ,…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 01 2011,09:19)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2011,13:09)Quote (t8 @ June 30 2011,10:15)Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2011,07:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 29 2011,01:44)“Jacob have I Loved , Esau have I hated”, notice both are past tense statements, this required a past association before they were ever physically born. Hi Gene,Does…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 30 2011,13:10)Quote (942767 @ June 29 2011,20:08)Hi Mike:You say: “Jesus could have had a soul prior to his birth into this world since God and angels have souls”.  There is only “One God” and Men and angels are created beings”.  The breath of God makes them living souls.There is no scripture that states that Jesus had a s…[Read more]