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    terricca……….I believe a mans soul is destroyed after he dies , “When a man dies his (thoughts) PARISH”, that is it he is no longer a loving soul and would remain that way for ever if GOD does not reconstruct his body and add spirit back into it . another interesting point that some many not have noticed is where it say “THE DEAD” are judged…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    WJ………….Look up the word “THOU” used there it give seven different types of definitions there in strong s , and in the KJ the so it say is not even in it. Check it out and get back to us brother. It is talking about GOD the FATHER WJ Not Jesus laying anything imo.peace and love………………………………….gene

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    Irene…….Obviously you did not read what you Posted about a resurected “BODY” , because you seem not to believe it. Go back are reread what you posted and what He said slowly . It is in complete agreement with what Istari and I have been saying. IMOpeace and love………………………………..gene

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    Mike……….The LOGOS (intellect of GOD) or Spirit of GOD came to be (IN) Flesh , it was (IN) Jesus and in this way it came to be (IN) flesh, and it is also comes to Be (IN) all who have recieved it. (it is the POWER from ON HIGH, that Jesus told the disciples to remain in Jerusalem until they recieved this POWER from on High. It is the I in you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (942767 @ July 07 2011,12:00)Here are some scriptures that may help you figure this out:Quote Gen 1:26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth…[Read more]

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    Istari…………….We are in agreement brother on this. Mike and others need to accept this truth it can greately help in their understanding of scripture. IMOpeace and love……………………………………….gene

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    T8………….Now that is “BIZZARO” BROTHER , IF THERE EVER WAS . Man these people who practice that form of religion are giving themselves over to controlling spirits that they are allowing to come into them , demonic influences of all kinds. That is indeed Bizarre it is sickening even to watch. Hard to believe people can get so screw up in…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 06 2011,12:32)So which HIM would ever have the glory of an only begotten from the Father?  Which HIM did John make clear he wrote his gospel about?  Which HIM was John the Baptist unworthy to even untie the sandal of?Guess what?  It was this same HIM who was with God in the beginning and was MADE FLESH.  It was this sam…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 20 2011,14:29)John 1:14 – The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.Non-preexister:  This really means, “The Word CAME TO BE IN SOMEONE WHO WAS FLESH”.My doctine does not require me to add words and thereby change…[Read more]

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    Mike ……..Reread this and ask yourself did Jesus not say He was not of this world (EVEN) (that means the exact same way the disciples were Not of this world.  So if your going to insist Jesus came from Heaven and not this world then that must also apply to the disciples according to John17:14 right?Joh 17:14 …> I have given them thy Word;…[Read more]

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    Perrre……………Yes all created (Beings) have Spirit (IN) them, or they could not exist. But without a body to animate, a spirit is useless by itself because it is effecting nothing, as Jesus said it goes about in (ARID) places looking for rest , it must have a PHYSICAL BODY to LAND OR COME TO REST (IN). There is no such thing as a SPIRIT…[Read more]

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    Irene……..Nearly All the Monks believed in the trinity. Where did you ever get the idea they were against the Trinity at. They are trinitarians and Preexistence. Nearly all scholars were and are too. It was Paladin that said the word reema and the word LOGOS were not the same thing , so if you were reading what he said right you are saying you…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 05 2011,13:21)Gene, how can ANYTHING “belong to” a spirit, if spirits are only what goes inside of other things?  Could you give me an example of what would “belong to” what YOU understand as a “spirit”?Mike………..Simple because it is the SPIRIT that CONTROLS the BODY that it is (IN) . YOUR EXAMPLE IS, YOU, YOU BELONG…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ July 05 2011,10:54)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 05 2011,16:22)Terricca…………Let don't go there, tell us what is better to quote a hundred scriptures like you do that has nothing to do with what anyone is taking about or speak a few word that give a clear understanding about a subject. You hardly are a person that should…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ July 05 2011,20:27)Because the one true Theos is the Father.So when Jesus, men, angels are legitimately called theos or elohim for reasons of nature, authority, or some other reason, it is not in the context of being identified as the the one true Theos, YHWH.T8……That is right, and when the LOGOS is (IN) a Person they are…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Irene………….Jesus said his disciples were from above, now does that mean they can down from heaven above from a preexisting life of some kind. Why do you people just stop with Jesus and discard the rest of what Jesus said about others who were “FROM” ABOVE TOO ? peace and love…………………………..gene

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    Quote (Paladin @ July 05 2011,20:48)But the real difference is delineated in the new testament -We are told of a sword that can be used for both thrust and parry; attack and defense, which is the written word of God, and  no false doctrine can stand against it: – “And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the rhema…[Read more]

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    MIke………..Because you apply a word such as spiritual to real bodies of some type it is you who should show us where a Spirit is a Body because it is you who insist it is. A Istari has said you have no idea what Spirit is not now or ever have. So all you shouting and accusations mean nothing here as I said a long time ago T8 should have never…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago

    Marty…………You have it absolutely right , Mike can't figure who Jesus “fellows” being are, because he think Jesus was a preexisting Angel posing as a Man in disguise. He simply can not see that God took from Mankind a pure human being and perfected Him and elevated Him to a preplanned position he had in mind for him before the world began,…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………Let don't go there, tell us what is better to quote a hundred scriptures like you do that has nothing to do with what anyone is taking about or speak a few word that give a clear understanding about a subject. You hardly are a person that should accuse others of anything , I told you when you first can here and began accusing…[Read more]

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