Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2011,11:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 14 2011,09:12)I was ask by another poster here to report you to T8 for misrepresenting what i Said and if i did report your LIE , i wounder what would really happen to you. As i have said Mike you simply are a Hypocrite, because you try to hold others to a standard you yourself…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 15 2011,10:54)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 14 2011,09:12)MIke………Now show me where i ever said Paladin was “WRONG” so now who is being Dishonest Here You or ME?Oh, you've learned from Paladin?    Do I now have to quote you verbatim too?  What you said was that you KNEW Paladin was in trouble with the imperfect tense of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2011,10:29)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 13 2011,09:27)Here is something to chew on Mike…………No, it's YOUR turn to answer some questions, Gene.Gene, was Jesus able to COMMAND 10,000 angels to take his place on the stake?If so, does it sound like he was lessor than the least one in heaven, like all other men…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 14 2011,12:21)So you KNEW all along that Paladin's claim about the imperfect tense of “echo” prohibiting Jesus from speaking of a past glory was WRONG?    You KNEW his claim was wrong the whole time I was pulling out my hair trying to just have someone acknowledge that his claim was wrong?     You KNEW that I was spe…[Read more]

Irene…………Mike is just as insulting as Istari or anyone else here in my opinion. Just go back and read what he has said to and about others here. As far as i saying anything about Antichrist , i alway say Trinitarians (AND) Preexistence who separates our identity with jesus is Antichrist IMO. Now if the shoe fits wear it. God know you…[Read more]

Mike…………..> so now your kicking Istari off becasue he admittedly disagrees with your false belief that Spirit have Bodies, well that is a good way to win right? As far as insulting a person you are the leader of the pack here, with your stupid Icon and insulting language, you continually belittle others who disagree with you and treat…[Read more]

To All………Jesus said “ I have glorified (YOU) upon the earth”. Jesus never glorified his self ever, ” if i glory myself my glory is nothing” it is the father that glorifies me”, now notice carefully this, Joh 8:50….> But I do not seek my own glory: now take notice; “THERE IS (HE), that seeks (glory) and Judges. Now tell us Mike who is…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 13 2011,16:12)Paul did not make any distinction between types of persons who were to be raised from the dead in Spiritual Bodies…What IS A SPIRITUAL BODY…?The SPIRIT – rests with God.The Body – rests in the Grave.Does the SPIRIT that rests with God have a Body?The body …..that is raised from the dead ….  has a SPIRIT…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2011,12:50)Quote (942767 @ July 12 2011,08:47)But no, it the fact that the word had “echo” was used would not prohibit Jesus glory coming to an end in the past, but there is nothing in the scriptures showing this as there is in the case of Barabbas.MAY GOD BLESS YOU, Marty! Thank you, thank you, thank you!  After weeks…[Read more]

Israri……….Good Post, understanding of what Spirit really is opens up many scriptures for us all. It is sad how most Christians have no idea what Spirit truly is. IMOpeace and love…………………………………….gene

Marty………You are right, Jesus' glory was a “foreordained” Glory, but was not realized until it happened and it did not happen before his berth into existence on this earth, even though it was Prophesied. Mike and his co-hearts are trying to say (AGAIN), as if he already had that Glory in a actual past existence . As you say pure…[Read more]

Pierre……> O REALLY they where is your scripture the “SAYS JESUS “PREEXISTED” HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH” THEN”? accusing others of what you are doing is called (HYPOCRISY) Pierre. The SPIRIT of TRUTH is what give us the understand of those scriptures it “the Holy Spriti goes beyond just word it give the sense of those words.< not in the letter…[Read more]

Chosenone……….Good to see you back Brother. Hope all is well with you, As you know i also agree with what you posted. i believe we all have a lot more going for us then we realize, Not becasue of who we are , but becasue of who God the Father is and the Power to Create righteousness in all his creation. Glad to see your back Brother. peace…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 12 2011,19:33)Gene,Thanks for your spiritual support.Your words are 'Righteous and Holy' (Hebrews 4:25) in this regard.Someone, in a very recent post, said that “It does not matter with what body the dead will rise.”Saint Paul, in answer to Corinthian's hardheadedess, said “But some will say 'With what bodies will the dead be…[Read more]

Mike………..Sorry your teacher was wrong as you are there are ignorant question as well as ignorant answers. But that does tell us a lot about you thinking though. As far as you question goes it was answered by me and others also. the Mat 27:18 …> Has a qualifier that dates it in the context of the rest of the sentence, “THEN” dates the time…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ July 12 2011,12:28)Quote (Lightenup @ July 11 2011,07:18)Quote (942767 @ July 10 2011,11:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2011,05:46)Hi Marty,Were you going to address my last post on this thread?  Or should I just be waiting for the time that you finally find a scripture that actually prohibits Jesus from pre-existing?  Hi M…[Read more]

Quote (Istari @ July 12 2011,11:12)Ok,The devil is too strong for me – I'm out of here…Scriptures says God will send a Spirit of delusion so as to make them fail to understand – and this is clear in this thread…Goodbye..Istari……….I was wondering when you would come to this, You are right they have a spirit (intellect) of delusion sent by…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2011,11:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 11 2011,18:30)MIke……………If he did not exist exactly the same as we are, then he has no right to tell us to “OVERCOME AS HE DID  In what way would we be able to do the if we are not exactly like Him , becasue of all the Prior advantages he would have Had. God was not…[Read more]

Mike……….There you go again distorting what i have said , It makes no difference where or in what country you are in , Jesus is and was still Just a Human Being and what worked for Him will work for any human being in exactly the same way I am and was not talking about disadvantage humans i am talking about the way they overcome their sin…[Read more]

To All …..Again SPIRITS do not have bodies they are what is in bodies , just that simple no more and no less why continue try to complicate this simple issue. Can't we even get this simple thing straight in our minds yet. Spirit is the INTELLECT that animates the body. Now if you understand this clearly many scriptures can make sound sense…[Read more]