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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Terricca………….If the fullness of God dwelt in him then it was GOD that was (IN) Him it does not say that Jesus the Man was that fullness Himself But that It (that fullness) dwelt (IN) Him . God was truly (IN) the man Jesus . God who is and was the LOGOS was (IN) the Flesh man (JESUS)> First Person as the LOGOS> Just as Paladin said He…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 25 2011,05:35)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 24 2011,11:34)MIke……….That was not my point at all, I Know a Satan (adversarial Spirit) exists i never said it did not exists. The is you assumption i am say a Satan does not exist, You believe he exists as some Physical being of some kind i don't. And by the way Mike I ask…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike……… A simple test for you OK, go look up the word BECAME and see what it say. As i recall it means CAME TO BE , now with that understanding tell us Mike have you ever SEEN A PHYSICAL “FLESH” WORD EVER in you life. You might have seen letters written down on paper, or something like that , but have you ever physically seen a “PHYSICAL…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike…….. becasue the LOGOS of Man (human reasoning) is of the World, and the LOGOS of GOD in from GOD, two separate reasonings, one from the world, and one from GOD. That is why he used the word LOGOS there. It still is referencing the Reasonings behind the WORD not the Words them selves. GET IT?peace and love…………………………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
MIke……….That was not my point at all, I Know a Satan (adversarial Spirit) exists i never said it did not exists. The is you assumption i am say a Satan does not exist, You believe he exists as some Physical being of some kind i don't. And by the way Mike I ask you a simple question first. Is he a physical Snake or Serpent, a simple Yes or…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike………….The Persuasive words Paul was talking about were Human reasonings,he was not referencing the LOGOS of GOD. Your way out in Left field on this one Mike. If you understood what Spirit really is you could easily understand this Mike. Paladin was absolutely right in what he was trying to get across to us all. IMO peace and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike………..There you go again saying i am saying that Angels do not exist I never said they did not exist But where does it say Satan is an Angel of any kind. I never said Satan as an adversarial “SPIRIT” does NOT EXIST, that is you putting word in my mouth again. Give yourself a tile for that Mike OK> You shouldn't LIE about what others are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike…………It doesn't say GOd created the LOGOS it say IT was in the Beginning becasue the LOGOS is GOD, it can not be separated from GOD now or ever, it was GOD the Father who was (IN) Jesus Just as Jesus said He WAS. “the son of man can do (NOTHING) of himself “The Father (IN) me (HE) does the works . When are you going to start to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike………..So tell us what this Satan of Yours looks like, is he really a “SNAKE OR SERPENT” surely you know right becasue he is a “real Person” to you Mike. Just as GOD is a Material Person to You also right Mike. You have never learned what Spirits really are yet so that does account for you ignorance on this i realize that. So tell us Mike…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Mike…………So which is it then……………..the man said Rema or Logos the man uttered Rema or Logos the man spoke Rema or Logos…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic what truth do we know for sure ? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
TK………….You have posed it right, they just need to have some physical attachment to it in order to understand it, Satan to them is a Person not a Spirit (intellect) they can't percieve it. Jesus overcame Himself , his own personal wants and desires in the wilderness, not some elusive being going around jumping in and out of People. And you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Kerwin………….> Don't be drawn in by Mike, Spirits do NOT HAVE BODIES, THEY ARE WHAT IS (IN) BODIES, and a Man consists of just two things a Body and Spirit and that equal a “LIVING SOUL” nothing more nothing less, just that simple Kerwin. No confusion needed. If we do not attain to a resurrection of our Bodies we simply will never live…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 1 month ago
Marty…………The problem you have with Mike is He forces the text to fit his preconceived false understandings, like saying God was like a giant basket ball and Jesus was a black dot out side the basket ball, and flailing all along to understand that God was (IN) Jesus Just as Jesus Said He was, GOD Lives (IN) and through His Creation, not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 21 2011,13:04)Hey Marty, Gene, Kerwin and Paladin,I was lead to this scripture a couple of nights ago, but didn't act on the “unction” or whatever until now:Hebrews 1:3 NIV © The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.Can you guess if “w…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Paladin……….Hope things go well for you brother. peace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 17 2011,02:58)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 16 2011,09:37)MIke……..This has nothing to do with Paladin, it has to do with you saying I was saying what he said was “Wrong” , and that was a LIE any way you want to hack it.Well let's see. I have been asking a simple question about the imperfect tense of “echo” for a long…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Shimmer……….When Jesus' body died He was truly completely dead, his thought perished just like ours do when we Die. Jesus' Body scripture say did no see corruption but was resurected and this is our hope it is the resurrection with bodies from the dead When Jesus cried out “My God , My God, Has thou forsaken me” he was not joking he fully…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Examination of the incarnation doctrine. in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2011,15:46)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 15 2011,08:14)Mike……….The only deceptive person here is YOU not Me or Paladin , Fact is I never said Paladin was Wrong (that is your LIE) nor did even suggest he was wrong in that statement. I knew he was going to get in trouble with that becasue i knew who you would twist…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 16 2011,13:23)Pierre,I'm glad that I read your response before I posted the same thing.
Gene, there is the “spirit” that comes from God and animates all living things and goes back to God when we die. Yes, there IS that kind of spirit.But there are also “spirits” who ARE angels and demons. In this case it means “a sp…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 1 month ago
Terricca……………No we don;t know that , A Spirit is (NOT) a BODY, to believe a Spirit is a “BODY” is misrepresenting the truth of scriptures. A Spirit is what is (IN) A BODY God who is a SPIRIT was truly (IN) Jesus He was in Him not as a Body of any kind but as Spirit he existed in Jesus God was truly in Jesus first person and spoke throu…[Read more]
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