Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 18 2011,11:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 17 2011,12:39)They have many names…Jehovah is common to both of them.Okay.  But Jesus has a PERSONAL name that is NOT common to both of them.  Why doesn't the Father?Just like the common name “church”.  But Smyrna has its own PERSONAL name and so does Ephesus, right?  Why is it tha…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 17 2011,15:21)Irene,Quote Kerwin!  No Sir, I only compared those two Scriptures in Rev. 13 to show who Jesus is in John 1:1…. It plainly show that… I also asked you and Marty who that could be in Rev. 19  who that description of that verse is?  You or Marty have not answered it….I have stated that Jesus is called the wo…[Read more]

Terricca…………I do believe He was in the Plan and will of GOD from the foundation of this present earth, I do Not believe He PREEXISTED” his BERTH on earth as any kind of Sentential Being at all. GOD is not concerned with Morphing Angels to humans and deceiving us to thinking they are real human beings in disguise. The whole Premise of a…[Read more]

Mike………Paladin was right brother. He is a great asset here for us all. IMOpeace and love……………………………gene

Mike…………No they are not redundant, because both words ” ROOT AND OFFSPRING” deal with two different aspects of the same thing, “roots”, deals with past prodigy of a family line and “offspring”, deals a specific individual of that linage. They are both relevant with regards to Jesus' linage and tie him to that family line and a specific…[Read more]

David ………This is what i am talking about.Rev 20:6…..> Blessed and holy is he that hath part int the first resurrection: on such the second death has no power, but they shall be priest of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. 7…> And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,…[Read more]

Terricca……………..Jesus was indeed a PREPLANNED BEING from the very start < From the seed of the women would come Jesus who would bruise the Head of the serpent. Nowhere does it say their was a EXISTING BEING who would become a seed of a women not there or for that matter no where in all the bible does it say that a person would be morph…[Read more]

MIke…………Jesus was not the Root of Jesse< Jesus was (FROM) the ROOT of JESSE. Please try to read the whole context of those Scriptures Mike, it was all about what would spring forth from Jesse another words His offspring as David was and Jesus was a Offspring of both Jesse and King David, and of these, David and Jesus, came from the Roots…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 16 2011,15:32)Gene, You are correct.  The word is “ascended”, not “returned”.You could have pointed out my error in a less facetious way however.Mike……Sorry I did go a little to far with my commit. peace and love…………………………..gene

Terricca…………. I understand what you believe Pierre, but looking for different translation to support you beliefs can trip you up, and trying to force text to meet you dogmas can only further serve to deceive yourself as well as others brother. You need to learn to quote the Scriptures accurately Pierre. IMOpeace and love to you and…[Read more]

Mike……………Your problem is you are not applying the meaning of ROOT Properly, Root of a Person simply means the person was a descendant or offspring of that person, Jesus was Both from the root of Jesse as well as King David. But notice no where does it say Jesse or David was from His ROOT now does it.  This is what ” Mystery Religion”…[Read more]

Mike………..Sorry but that is a wrong translation again if you look had enough you can find any trinitarians or preexistence altered Bible that changes the original text to fit your dogmas if you try hard enough. Why don't you check out the original Greek Mike and see if that is the correct translation seem the original King James disagree with…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,14:17)Pierre,Do we have John 20:17 in our database yet?  I'll have to check, for that is a good one.  Especially the RETURNING part.  Mike……….Problem is the “RETURNING” part is not their. Just Pierre forcing the text to say what in fact it does not say much like you and all trinitarians and Preexistences do…[Read more]

Terricca………..You can make scripture say what you want by changing the text, here is the true text.John 20: 17…..Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not: for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren   and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and my God, and your GOD.  Now tell us Pierre where do you see t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 15 2011,01:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 13 2011,09:13)MIke…………I am going to slow this down a little……….Let focus on the Prophesy of Jesse…….Now who was the root of Jesse?, you seem to imply Jesse was Jesus' root, bit scripture shows it the other way around Jesus was the root of Jesse.I agree Gene.…[Read more]

ED j……….Jesus was Exactly like us, until he recieved the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD at the JORDAN , he had to learn as we do and grow in Statue and Knowledge of GOD the same as we do. When he became different then Most human beings was when he recieved the Holly Spirit at the Jordan River , but that can and does Happen to other Human beings also, as…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 13 2011,10:24)Hi Gene.The kingdom is a theme that runs through the Bible, as is the seed, who would become king of that kingdom.It's called many things: God's kingdom, Jesus' kingdom, heavenly kingdom, etc.Yes, there is that scripture that says he will hand over the kingdom to his father.  But the word “kingdom” means empire,…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 14 2011,01:36)Is explained by the following scripture:Quote Colossians 1:18And He is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He might have the preeminence.He is not the “first creature created by God”.  He is the “Last Adam”.  God began in Genesis saying that he w…[Read more]

Mike ……Still waiting on you response to my Jesse root thing, what give?, have you come to see something maybe you missed before brother. I hope So.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………..gene

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 14 2011,13:09)Paladin is right, people both worship the cross and also Jesus in the flesh; here are the Scripture…Isaiah 45:20-22 Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save.…[Read more]