MIke……….Right because it is the Spiirt that causes the Mind to think and do those things one can not exist without the other, if you were void of Spirit (intellect), then you would just be a Zombie, Know nothing . It is the spirit that gives us cognizance of Knowledge creating out intellects we have in us. Paul is simple showing that one…[Read more]

Mike…………Jesus was using the (intelligent) Spirits (IN) Him explaining that He was not a Spirit OR Ghost “BEING” as they and you presume he was and is, why because spirit are not Physical beings of any kind Just as Jesus said they were not , for a spirit does (NOT) have flesh and bone as you see i have” get that Mike, NO SPIRIT has…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 05 2011,13:48)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 03 2011,09:06)ED J……………….Bottom line is they simply do not know what Spirit actually IS> It is not a “BEING” it is what is (IN) BEINGS.Actually Gene,It is YOU who mistakenly believes that all mentions of “spirit” in the scriptures have the same meaning.When YOU correct…[Read more]

To all………….the word Spirit or Spirits does not have all kinds of Meanings it is precise and absolute in it meaning a Spirit is the intellects that are (IN) a Person and they are expresses BY Words which is defined as “INTELLIGENT UTTERANCES”> Just that simple unless you are involved in “MYSTERY RELIGIOUS” teachings, then spirit or spirits…[Read more]

Terricca…………..Or Maybe it shows YOU have learned Nothing Right?. So your saying we only learn something when we agree with you Preexistences who believe like you fellow Trinitarians that is that Jesus preexisted His Berth on this earth right> If that is not something to laugh at i don't know what is.peace and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 07 2011,11:24)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 06 2011,17:47)Mike……….I see again you refused to answer my post, and come out with something that meet you dogmas, so i will ask you again, do you believe the FATHER WAS (IN) Jesus or NOT?,  A Simple yes or no will suffice, It will tell us all exactly what you  believe. I…[Read more]

Kathi………..NOTICE WHAT IT SAYS, “man doe not live by bread or Meat alone So to say he does not live at all by bread and meat would be a misstatement of what scripture really says. Fact is man does live by Bread and Meat or he would die but Sprit is also avaiable for guidance and intellect. Actually it take both for a man to live. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

Mike………….Yes the intellect (IN) you give you a team spirit , Just as the intellect of the team does to its team members also. If you did not have an Intelligent understand about your team you would have no team spirit at all nor would anyone else have, You would simply be ignorant of the team. And as far as a person changing original…[Read more]

Mike……….I see again you refused to answer my post, and come out with something that meet you dogmas, so i will ask you again, do you believe the FATHER WAS (IN) Jesus or NOT?, A Simple yes or no will suffice, It will tell us all exactly what you believe. IMOpeace and love…………………………………………gene

MIke…………Go look up the Greek word EN notice its primary meaning is IN not BY.So in Heb it is saying, God spoke to us “en” or “IN a SON” not “by a son”. This shows a direct involvement by GOD the FATHER himself , He was truly (IN) Jesus as the word “en” (in) in Greek shows. This also agree with Jesus saying the Father was “en” In him,…[Read more]

Mike…………..Isn't that what all trinitarians and Preexistences do say there are all kind of different meanings to words and the pick and chose the one that fit their own preconceived understandings , You are not different from them IMO simply choose any meaning to fit you personal dogmas, or force the text to meet them. Make the word spirit…[Read more]

Lightenup………… that is a good site , i have bookmarked it, thanks Kathi. What i found interesting about those scriptures is the Translators use “EN” to mean (BY) but it actually means (IN), GOD spoke to us (IN) Jesus > remember “the Father (IN) me He doth the works, God did also speak to us by and through Jesus because He was actually (IN)…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 04 2011,11:20)I am asking you a direct question.Please do not try and divert his time. I am happy to answer any questions you have including these, but before I possibly go on a wild goose chase, I want to clarify your understanding on something which I have asked in a number of different ways.You believe that man is spirit and…[Read more]

Mike……………NO ….I do not agree there are many meanings of the word Spirit, that is Your confusion Not Mine. That is why you can apply it to , Angels , Bodies, Human physical changed bodies, Jesus Physical morphing from one state of being to another, God as a person with a body, and on and on it goes. Mike as i said before you have no…[Read more]

Terricca…………….No it will take more then me to do that i am afraid, if Jesus' could not do it to the Pharisees i doubt if I can do it to you, but God the Father can i do believe and will some day, hopefully, and in that day i would like to see all your icons and insulting remarks you make then. Pierre your insulting words do draw a…[Read more]

Terricca…………Like i said better YOU do them YOURSELF then tell others and try to pass YOUR OWN worthless Judgment on them. IMOWhy say unto thy brother, let me remove the speck in your eye when you have a LOG in your own eye, first get the Log out of your own eye and then you can see how to remove the speck in you brothers eye.Pierre you…[Read more]

ED J……………….Bottom line is they simply do not know what Spirit actually IS> It is not a “BEING” it is what is (IN) BEINGS. There is so much confusion on this subject of Spirit it  causes all these speculation and false dogmas these people come up with. Yet Jesus explained what Spirit (IS) and it simply is intellects People adsorb into…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 04 2011,01:27)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 04 2011,05:20)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 03 2011,01:51)Mike……..So say you that it is a Metaphor but i say GOD the FATHER was Truly (IN) Jesus By the His SPIRIT which gave him the WORDS (reema) to speak to us from the LOGOS that was (IN) Him. What do you think He meant when he said the…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 04 2011,00:43)Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  Jhn 1:2   The same was in the beginning with GodIrene……….Get it God and his words are one and the SAME, Yes Just as your words are with You so GOD'S words are with him and Yes even in the “BEGINNING was those words of…[Read more]

Mike……….So much talk but not one answer Back to square one did Jesus say he was (NOT) a SPIRIT but a flesh and bone (BEING) after His resurrection , a simple Yes or Know will suffice. So if Jesus say He was Not after his resurrection a SPIRIT “BEING” that is not to say He did not have Spirit (IN) HIM but that He was Not a SPIRIT “BEING”…[Read more]