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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Frank4 Yahweh…………………….Don't get discourage by Mike thinking we don't answer his questions, many many here have answered them over and over and He still says the same thing as if those question weren't answered at all, What he is really saying they are not answered his way, the way he wasn't them to be answered.  Frank there are…[Read more]

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    Terricca………..No, that body will decay and go back to the earth, but with that same DNA God will produce another. This is called the resurrection , that wittiness the redemption of our “BODIES”. and again It (that present body) is sown in corruption; it (that replicated body) is raised in incorruption: It is t(hat body) is sown in…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 14 2011,06:07)I know from experience that though I cannot control the ideas that come into my head, with training and the power of God I can put a stop to working them out even in my thoughts.Kerwin………..That is what overcoming is all about brother. It is “Mastering” those thoughts even as Jesus did in the Wilderness…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 14 2011,08:04)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 06 2011,12:39)Really Frank?  Why not just answer two simple little questions then:What exactly did Jesus EMPTY HIMSELF of in Phil 2?How is someone who ALREADY IS a human being made into the likeness of a human being?Yes, really Mike!,The contents of Philippians chapter 2 is…[Read more]

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    Mike…………….Spirit does not have all kinds of meanings as you falsely assume, it has only one meaning , Spirits are, simply put, the intellects that abide (IN) a Person They are expressed by our word and those who have the Spirit of God can Judge those words and know if that person is of God or not. Please don't say i have not answered…[Read more]

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    Mike…………So when are you going to admit you are wrong then?peace and love………………………………………………gene

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    Quote (Paladin @ Nov. 13 2011,20:25)It does not require “possibility” for a thought to become sin. It requires fulfillment in some capacity or other to become a “sin unto death.  Remember, “all unrighteousness is sin.” The difference is not in the thought, it is in the result; i.,e., “What did you do about it?” or “How did you handle…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……..They simply do not get it nor understand scripture correctly , Paladin and many other have proven that here , truth is not their purpose they are not open to any truth they simply are indoctrinated to the religion of trinitarians and Preexistences and force the texts to say what in fact it does not say in many cases . Mike know full…[Read more]

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    Mike…………You and your ignorant Co-Hart need only produce ONE Scripture that Shows Jesus was there that is all Just ONE. Surely you two can put your heads together and come up with at leas ONE right? If you understood Genesis correctly you would see that the earth Became Tohu and Bohu now go and figure that out if you can. Another thing…[Read more]

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    Mike………… Mike in case you don't know this > flesh and  Bone IS A BODY Spirits do not have bodies they are what is (IN) BODES, and how is it we are to try those spirits if it is not the intellect of a person we are trying. In fact this why you can not believe the FATHER is a Spirit and was truly (IN) Jesus as  the LOGOS  Because you have no…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 16 2011,07:02)Mike,Quote NETNotes says:  The perfect tense in Greek corresponds to the perfect tense in English, and describes an action which is viewed as having been completed in the past, once and for all, not needing to be repeated. Do really believe the writers of Net notes do not know the difference between an English…[Read more]

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    Mike………T8 Had to do it that way because He is Not GOD the creator of all thing who Jesus said “ALL THINGS WERE POSSIBLE FOR HIM” You now limit GOD to the level of Man. Making Him Like a Man , that is a Joke at best . But then again it does shown us how far you will go to support you dogmas. Mike why have you not answered the Isa 44:24…[Read more]

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    Mike…………..Do you See  any scripture that say SPIRIT BEINGS  cut the garbage and answer this Yes or NO. As far as you question A Or B goes , you are assuming Because the apostles thought something that makes it fact it exists , so if spirit “BEINGS” exist,  then why did not Jesus simply say, i am not a “SPIRIT BEING” them. No he said a sp…[Read more]

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    Mike………….Go read the Hebrew because there is no such word as CREATE in the original Hebrew language, it is in HEBREW, “fatting or filling as in filling up, And where it says in English He “created” them , it should be better written creating them is He in his image It should be presented as a ongoing event not a past “completed” event.…[Read more]

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    MIke………………Spirit is the intelligence that is (IN) a Person. Tell me this when scripture say for us to try the SPIRITS, what are we trying some Spirit “BODY” or the “INTELLECT” being expressed by a person coming from his mind. Need Scripture i can give it to you? Again Spirits are not Bodies they are what is (IN) a Body. Much like a…[Read more]

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    MIke………. MIke right and because there are choices that should alone show you you could be wrong, now go to the scripture i quoted in Isa 44 :24 and see if there are any of those choices and if not why not just believe those scriptures that are clear saying GOD created everything “ALONE AND BY HIMSELF”. Mike there is no creator but God alon…[Read more]

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    T8……………I am still waiting for your response to my post on this if we need to take it one step at a time lets do so, i would like to dialog with you on this topic brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………………..gene

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    Mike………….So Post the words SPIRIT “BEINGS”, that should suffice let see if there are those word in any scripture, or is it something you and others have come up with. Tell us what Spirit “BEINGS” look like. Jesus described the Spirit as like the wind (a force that can not be seen) why? because spirit does not have a Body at all. No where…[Read more]

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    Mike…………No because i have explained to you before the word “through” is translated all kind of way in scriptures it can just as easily be translated (FOR) or (because of) or for the (Purpose of) or (for the sake of) and true scripture can not contradict scripture . So let start with Isa 44:24 and see if you can get that GOD created…[Read more]

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    Mike…………You can say or force text all you want to, but the bottom line is GOD ALONE and BY HIMSELF Created  everything that exists, and it was not through or any other being. Isa 44:24 …..> Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer; and he that formed you from the womb,  I am the LORD that makes (ALL) things that stretches forth the heaven (…[Read more]

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