Marty………..Thanks brother but i am one who never seems to know when to quit brother. I love everyone and my hope that maybe God will use me to ignite a spark in them. I miss your posts also brother, we have Frank back to help us and he has posted some good material, who knows if we might snatch some out of the fire brother, let continue to…[Read more]

Terricca……………First you have to Understand Scriptures to even begin to know them, which is something PREEXISTENCES Like YOURSELF seem unable to do IMOpeace and love……………………………………………………………………….gene

Frank4 Yahweh……………………..Excellent read brother, i Hope all who believe in a Preexistence Jesus read this writing by Ray Faircloth, He see it the same way i , you and others here have also, Kerwin, Marty, Paladin, Martian, Chosenone, Not3in1, I love it when the truth is expounded so clearly Brother. If only some others here could…[Read more]

Mike………..Quite playing your stupid mind games. Jesus was never the Word of GOD not when he was Here or ever will be. I have told you before that is a “title” Jesus has . Jesus Plainly said,  in i believe three or four places the Word He spoke were not His words Jesus in no more GOD'S Word then the Prophets were , just because He and they…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 17 2011,08:55)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Oct. 04 2011,17:38)Terricca…………….No it will take more then me to do that i am afraid, if Jesus' could not do it to the Pharisees i doubt if I can do it to you, but God the Father can i do believe and will some day, hopefully, and in that day i would like to see all your icons…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 17 2011,11:32)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 16 2011,10:26)I will stick with what Jesus said , ” A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE (A) BODY”No wonder your understanding of scripture is so flawed, Gene.  You keep sticking with the things YOU IMAGINE that Jesus said.  Jesus never said “A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE A BODY”.  …[Read more]

Frank………Leland Ryken did and excellent Job in his description of what personification means.  The bible is full of them as well as Symbolic and metaphors, parables (parallel stories) and all kind of Proverbs (fictitious illustrations) is what the word Proverbs means. Jesus even told his disciples He spoke to them about the Father in a…[Read more]

Frank…………You have posted it right brother, God was addressing Israel as a firstborn Son. This is also how they corrupt scriptures and force text to try desperately to prove Jesus' preexistence, it doesn even matter if it has nothing to do with Jesus' or not. IMOpeace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 17 2011,11:22)Just be honest Frank.  That's all I'm asking.  Don't tell the good people here that you've answered questions when you really haven't, okay?  Proverbs 8:22-31 NIV22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,  before his deeds of old;23 I was formed long ages ago,  at the very beginning, when the wo…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 17 2011,02:57)T8……..Can't you see your Monitor and his ignorant Ch-hart drug Frank into saying and reacting the way he did, is it because you agree with them you jump in on Frank also?>  You ask people to be Polite here and that is good but should  not you monitor be even more polite and considerate of others a…[Read more]

T8………….> I am still waiting for you response to my Posts , let continue our discussions , do you even believe in the resurrection that will “witness the redemption of “OUR BODIES” What does this “OUR BODIES” mean to you T8? peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………………gene

Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 16 2011,09:54)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2011,06:34)Kerwin……………..I believe one of the main reasons people are confused in religion is that they apply all kinds of meaning to Spirits, For instance some think Spirits are beings, but no scripture says there are Spirit beings in the bible,  Some think Spirits have…[Read more]

MIke………..So he agree with you what does that prove That you are not alone? O well so much for that, I will stick with what Jesus said , ” A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE (A) BODY” Just that simple to me and i don't need all kinds of different Meanings of the word Spirit to understand what it is < Jesus explained what Spirit Is in other places,  we…[Read more]

Frank………….Continue to post and ignore those who are provoking you here Just don't respond to their ignorant behaviors, that only serves their real purposes to remove people who disagree with them from this site IMO. You believe right brother, Jesus never preexisted His Berth on this earth except in the plan and will of God, No Matter…[Read more]

T8……..Can't you see your Monitor and his ignorant Ch-hart drug Frank into saying and reacting the way he did, is it because you agree with them you jump in and attack Frank also?> You ask people to be Polite here and that is good but should not you monotor be even more polite and considerate of others also, He and his Co-hart make snide…[Read more]

MIke………..I never said they thought thy saw a Intellect  inside a person, nowhere did I say it, that is just a LIE of Yours,. Fact is they were just as Ignorant about what was a Spirit as you are. That is why Jesus went on to explain to then that a SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE A BODY  AS HE DID. Another words they could not see Spirit at all  the we…[Read more]

Mike ………..GOD created everything for his Purposes and His Purpose was for Man to come to the ultimate level that He perfected Jesus to and it was for this purpose God created all thing. Not Just for Jesus' alone but for God's ultimate purpose for all mankind, which is fulfilled in Jesus, Jesus is that Goal for us all so in that sense God…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 15 2011,17:02)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2011,01:25)Frank4Yahweh………………..Welcome brother, you have rightly spoken the truth here, it is refreshing to see others understand this truth also. Indeed Jesus did not Preexist his berth on this earth, He only existed in the mind and will of GOD and was the Prophesied…[Read more]

T8…………You as well as I and all only see in part none of us have all truth or we would not be seeking truth would we. WE have the spirit (intellect) of truth given us by God the Father. That is to say we have the cognizance of truth, but as having all truth of scriptures that is a false assumption on your part. The holy spirit guides us…[Read more]

Kerwin……………..I believe one of the main reasons people are confused in religion is that they apply all kinds of meaning to Spirits, For instance some think Spirits are beings, but no scripture says there are Spirit beings in the bible,  Some think Spirits have Bodies but no description of any Spirit BODIES in scripture.  Because s…[Read more]