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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Mike………… When you call a person a coward you don't even know that only show how Ignorant your are and if anyone is an Idiot here i is you and i well know it is better to settle a matter without violence but some times you do have to stand up for what you believe in even if it brings violence upon you, Your dad was indeed talking to a…[Read more]

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    Mike………..but Pierre keep yacking at me so his word does not have much credibility here as far as i am concerned. Mike do me a favor and sware off also OK. And don't try to drag Shimmer into this I believe she has a better understanding of Spirit, and it does not agree with yours either. IMO

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    Mike …….There are all kinds of things said about Jesus origins and none of the meet your conclusions, you and your Preexistent trinitarian fellow believers also believe all kind of thing No scripture say specifically , so you both go about forcing the text to meet your own dogmas. IMO

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    Mike……..Perhaps you missed the IMO at the end of my post. You full well know i do not believe in the preexistence of Jesus so obviously i would say He did not also preexist IMO And as far an scripture speaking of one who preexisted that is your (OPINION) and your fellow Trinitarians . IMO gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2011,09:00)Actually Gene,The word is “THROUGH” – as in:  “all things were created THROUGH Jesus”.  It was YOU who insisted all things were created FOR Jesus – not me.  And that is why I asked the question of how dinosaurs could have been created FOR Jesus if he was never around to enjoy them.As to my new question:  D…[Read more]

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    Pierre, i never “LIED” to you or anyone here, I doubt you even know what the word LIE means. IF YOU THINK i did not answer your question then that iws your problem. Your own word said Jesus was a MERE MAN , you need to read your own posts or try to be more clear on what you are talking about. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

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    pierre………..You answered it yourself, “yes he was a mere man” That was your question Pierre. Now if you ask is Christ a New creation don't really know where you are coming from with that question, So i will say Jesus was a Mere Man who obtained to the resurrection from the dead and now sit in the temple of God in heaven, ready to return…[Read more]

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    To All………..As in the “first Adam all die as in the (SECOND ADAM) all shall be made alive” Adam is a name for Man kind, Jesus was another ADAM not a MORPHED anything. The word ADAM means RED Clay or Dust Jesus was also made from RED CLAY or dust, Adam was made by God, Jesus was Made By GOD also , ADAM was a SON of God , Jesus was a Son of…[Read more]

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    Tim………..Good post brother. False Religion has put people in a box of preconceptions a false truths . God sent Jesus to set us all FREE, and all who truly believe will not be disappointed , but many come in his name and use it to deceive people and bring them in to the same bondage they are in. IMO peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Pierre…………….Answer my question first , WAS ADAM A MERE MAN?. He is called the “SON of GOD”.peace and love………………………………………………………gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 20 2011,04:01)Gene, did you pick #1 or #2 from my post?  Please pick one of the only two choices there are.Mike…………Read the above the answer, it's there, sorry if you are unable to see it, but then that is your problem right?, not mine nor anyone else's right? Neither of YOUR Choices prove their EXISTS SPIRIT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Mike……… Mike, there is hardly nothing Frank has said or posted I haven't said here time and time again for over 6 yrs here little man. And about itching ears your have then more then anyone here as has been proven many times here if Pierre or Irene or T8 say any thing that itches your ears you ju mp right in and agree with then also, so…[Read more]

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    Mike………….If i say i “thought” I Saw a Ghost or Spirit BEING instead of a real person , then that hast to means there must “really” be a Spirit Being even though it PROVED out to be a REAL PERSON. That is the most dumbest argument for proof there (ARE) Body Spirits “Beings”, i think i ever heard . Now that deserves a :D :D :D I notice you…[Read more]

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    To all………..Jesus the MAN who came into being by his Berth on this earth through Mary was and is the Promised Messiah the one Moses said would come forth from the Isrealite brothers, and that God would bring forth from them not some other so-called preexistent Morphing process which by the way is no where even mentioned in scripture not so…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Frank………..Good Job Brother , don't let the ignorance of these two discourage you brother, there both as blind as bats and have no true desire to learn the truth of God at all. Your work you are doing for the truth of God, is good and remember none of these brain washed TRINITARIANS WHO ARE ALSO PREEXISTENCES HAVE THE spirit OF truth in them…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Mike………Frank answered all your questions by what he presented, It not his fault if you and Your Co-hart cant understand what is presented and follow the logic there. So you after starting you usual games of “HE DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION AGAIN. And this is the way you and Pierre sling your insults at people , by trying to desperately…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 19 2011,08:37)I do not believe that Father Yahweh's word was a separate being apart from Himself as His son, a god, or an angel in the beginning. I believe that Father Yahweh's word was manifest (MADE KNOWN or REVEALED) in the flesh THROUGH (BY WAY OF) His son Yahshua. I believe that Father Yahweh's son Yahshua is the…[Read more]

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    ED j ……….It sure would brother. I do know all of us (THE WHOLE HUMAN RACE) preexisted in the Plan and Will of GOD from the very foundations of the earth Just like Jesus also did. So in what way God foreknew us that is up in the air I only know i do not recall any Preexistent life whatsoever, But then i am not GOD so to say anything on that…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2011,09:28)How can BOTH things be true, Shimmer?  Knowing that Luke used the word “spirit” to describe what the disciples thought they were seeing when they saw the raised Jesus for the first time, how can both of the following claims that Gene has made be true:1.  The word “spirit” ALWAYS means “intellect inside s…[Read more]

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    ED j …………..A Being that has been Changed into a human being from another state of existences. As the Trinitarians who are also Preexistences preach.peace and love…………………………………………………………………………..gene

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