Quote (t8 @ Nov. 21 2011,08:40)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 18 2011,02:57)To All…………I have started this thread to draw out how the image of Jesus as anything other then a HUMAN BEING damages the Work of GOD in humanity. And to show how giving Jesus advantages he never had as something other then a 100 % human being who started His life Just…[Read more]

T8………..Remember it also say “the dead Know nothing in the day they die their thoughts parish” another words that is It,  If you can't think you simply do not exist T8, and again “there is no praise in the grave”  and let not forget what Job said that he would see God In his FLESH , even if he died. He believed in a flesh resurrection also.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 21 2011,09:11)Gene.I will try and make it clearer for you.If we are not a soul in a body and with a spirit in the soul, then when we are given a new body and spirit, then we are replaced because there is nothing of us left.If YOU are merely the combination of 2 things, then when those 2 things are replaced, then you no longer…[Read more]

Tim……….Jesus did not fulfill all Prophesy , Just the Prophesy that concerned Him only coming as the Messiah, there are many Prophecy's that deal with times past Jesus life on this earth. And Joel as fulfilled on the day of Pentecost and is still in effect to this very day to all who have true faith, God has and does pour forth from his…[Read more]

T8………..God and His Word are one and the same , in exactly as you and your words are one and the same thing also. No difference, Jesus clearly said the words he was speaking were (NOT) HIS WORDS They were GOD'S words  And God is Spirit and Life so also is his Words they are Spirit and Life. Jesus was Not Spirit ever then or now he is flesh…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 22 2011,08:28)John 1:14The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.If the Word is God himself, then then the Father became flesh. But God is not a man.And it was after all, Jesus who existed in the form of God who…[Read more]

T8………..No one disputes that, Jesus had his “Origins” from the Father so do we, It was God's Plan to For Jesus from the beginning of creation, remember, from the seed of the woman would come one the would bruise the serpents head Notice he said FROM THE (SEED) OF THE WOMEN HE WOULD COME question T8 did he say from the seed of a preexistent…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2011,01:52)Gene,I see you have STILL not addressed Ps 90:2.  It is for THAT reason I call you a coward.  So why not prove me wrong by addressing my point?Or, you could prove me right by refusing to address it like you have been.The choice is yours, of course.  But until you make the first choice, you'll continue to be…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 20 2011,17:41)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 20 2011,04:02)You called me a Coward, O really I have PERSONALLY BEAT IN A REAL FIST FIGHT THE PERSON WHO STILL HOLDS THE WORLDS CONSECUTIVE HEAVY WAIT KNOCK OUT RECORD, 28 STRAIGHT KO'S,  I'll bet you can't even name Him, here is a Hint he fought Mohammad Allie in Japan and Allie won on…[Read more]

Terricca……….When are you going to stop slamming Character, is that all you know how to do here.  It would be better for all of us if you could just keep you mouth closed for a while . Every thing i say is my opinion of what scripture means by the topics we are discussing here. Just as your IMO is all we get here also, you like to think you…[Read more]

Kerwin………..Spirits are not beings themselves, they are what produces cognate thoughts in a Being, they can be both clean or unclean , they can be taken away or given and even replaced in a BEINGS. God makes His ANGEL”S spirits for them and then sends them out to minister. He does not make the Angel s spirit Beings, there exist no such…[Read more]

ED j ……….I agree with you on that. they just muddy up the water with their own ignorance of simple things. IMO PS .. ED J i tried to join your site but some how it did not go through, shimmer sent me an email about here site and said they went to your site, email me if you can.peace and love…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 21 2011,03:20)Gene,If you agree that the one called “the Word of God” in Rev is Jesus, then I'm halfway home to showing you John 1:1.Whose Word do you think is mentioned in John 1:1, Gene?  It says, “In the beginning was the Word”, right?  WHOSE Word?Was it the Word of Satan?  The Word of Michael?  The Word of Gabriel?  Or…[Read more]

Terricca………………Yes it is Pierre. IMO So Go cry to you monitor friend maybe he can hand out another tile for you. Between you and him you can get everyone kicked of this site except those who agree with your false Preexistences views of course. IMO

Mike……..The Jew were seeing just like you are, they were looking for a Physical place . But Jesus was not meaning that at all, He simply come forth from a higher level (Spirit Intellect) they (the Jew) were from the earth and they spoke from earthly terms Jesus was from a Higher level of understanding i.e. Heavenly.Mike………..read this and…[Read more]

Mike……….A good study would for you would be (what does the word Heaven mean). It is contrasted with Beneath Heaven is a symbolic term meaning (HIGH PLACE) as the earth is considered the LOW PLACE, Jesus told his disciples  they were from above also just like he was Mike, He also told the Pharisees the were from below. Heaven and earth can…[Read more]

Terricca…………..Right, that is your problem here you talk about the person and have little or no understanding about the topic in discussion, You have said that right at least. You jump over the topics being discussed to make personal insults like you brother Mike does, Thank God T8 not like you two idiots. IMO

Tim……………..Good post brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………….gene

Mike ……….So what is your Point ? if there is any.gene

Terricca ………..You have to try to make what you are saying understandable first. Pierre i am not the only one who in most cases have no idea what you are saying , you have been told that many times before. Your lack of understanding our language is problem here for all of us. IMOgene