T8……….It is not “HE” was in the beginning with GOD it is (IT) was in the beginning with God, a Word is not a “HE” it is an “IT”. It was with GOD, in the beginning and “WAS” GOD. GOD a Spirit (intellect) and it (GOD) is expressed in WORDS , God and the Word are one and the same. Jesus [plainly said that remember, the words i am telling you are…[Read more]

Frank……………….I have told them what you have brought out over and over, They just do not get it. God and His word or Words are one and the Same. Mike think a man and his word or words are not the same . I would like to see him separate his word or words from himself, if he could do that it that would prove his point, his words are an…[Read more]

T8………..If God created “EVERY THING” through Jesus then please tell us what part Jesus played in that process, you have explained what parts played in you explanations , So now tell us What Part Jesus Played, and if you can't then how can you make the claim. Jesus as far as I know never told of any of his part in creation nor is there any…[Read more]

Mike …………YES IN HIS MINDS EYE, Just as all who SEE GOD Do likewise.  God is a Spirit you can not see him. You simply do not believe Jesus or John when he said “ no man has seen God at any time John 1:18……> No man has seen God (AT ANY TIME), the only begotten Son, Which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared himNow what part…[Read more]

Pierre………..You were the first person throwing Stones here long long ago, remember with words Like “it has the smell of the Devil” and so on accusing people all a long. And here is something for you “PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD  NOT THROW STONES> And thats THREE Fingers not tree fingers. IMOpeace and love…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 29 2011,10:10)Sounds like Frank just confessed what we were trying to tell him.God creates through agency. He creates through processes he set up in the beginning. The keyword is THROUGH and yet it was still God doing the creating.If God made all through Christ, then it is necessary that he was there at the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 28 2011,01:40)Tim,What can I say?  Your understanding, while good natured and optimistic, is not even close to what the scriptures teach.  Gene has listed one scripture that tells of a fatal warning from Jesus.  I'll add two more:Matthew 10:15I tell you the truth, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the da…[Read more]

Kerwin…………..I concur if it is not sound in reason lines with the Spirit (intellect) Of Truth , it should be questioned and we should not except anything that is not “SOUND” Truth. IMO also. peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………….gene

TIM…………Beautifully put brother, “woe” to them who cast stumbling blocks before the feet of GOD and Jesus' Little ones. Another thing Tim, Mike misquoted that scripture , it is refereeing to “the NATIONS” and the “FIRE” there is speaking of (INTENSE JUDGMENTS) upon those NATIONS. Jesus will divide the Nation it say as one divide the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 28 2011,01:06)Gene,The questions are:Do you agree with Ed that verse 30 refers to Jesus?  YES or NO?Do you agree with Ed that verse 15 refers to Jesus?  YES or NO?Mike………… What business is that of yours, Stop trying to use you mind to create dissension between brothers, I have written what i believe clearly, that s…[Read more]

Frank……………..Amen Brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………..gene

Mike….Simply deal with verse 15 now what does it say. ” He that cometh after me is (PREFERRED) Before me, for(because) he was (NOW NOTICE) before me, The two word (BEFORE) are two Different words in the GREEK , the first is “emprosthen” meaning (in front of me). Now go on “for (because) he was (BEFORE) Greek word here is “protos”meaning in time…[Read more]

Terricca………….Well Pierre you finely said some intelligent, good Boy now go sit in your corner with your monitor friend.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 27 2011,11:02)Gene,Don't you have a question to answer in the pre-existent thread?  And three of them in the incarnation thread?  Chop-chop little man.Mike………….every question has been answered hundreds of time only you are unable for some reason to understand the answers. That is not my or anyone else's fault you l…[Read more]

Terrica …….I have looked for the truth of scriptures and it sure does not meet what you say that is for sure, O and what your big mouth Monitor friend say either. Be honest for a change Pierre you nor he cares nothing about the truth of God or you both would not continue to quote scriptures out of context, and push your trinitarian derived…[Read more]

To All…………. Mar 9:42….> And whosoever shall offend (trip up) one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck and he were cast into the sea. peace and love…………………………………………..gene

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 25 2011,04:24)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 24 2011,03:48)ED J………..Don't worry about it Pierre is only expressing his mental abilities.  He is not about the sincere meat of the Word of GOD. Just another Show Boat in the sea of confusion the Trinitarians and Preexistences float in. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

Mile ……………You quote scripture your way not the scriptures way, so don't deceive yourself little man>

Mike……………You and Pierre seem to be the only ones that mouth it off about people  that's for sure and many, many, many that have come and gone from here know that also. Rather then have insulting  confrontational gibber about your stupid put downs they simply leave the site. Can't really blame them either , they simply go and dialog on a…[Read more]

Mike……………You and Pierre seem to be the only ones that mouth it off about people that's for sure and many, many, many that have come and gone from here know that also. But rather then have insulting confrontational grabber your stupid put downs they simply leave the site. Can't really blame them either , they simply go and dialog on…[Read more]