Mike………Now that is the problem here right, the Original Testament only shows a LIVING Soul as a Complete human Being , and No mention of a “SEPARATE” SOUL that still is alive after death,  but  you say Paul used two or three different words right? fact is the trinitarian translators used two or thee different words to push their still a…[Read more]

Mike……….Thats the problem you said a “HINT” but no Specifics right? and yet you build doctrines around those “HINTS”, Just “hints” that go against the “ORIGINAL SCRIPTURES” that Paul told us to ailing  our thinking with. We on the other hand are using solid Specific Scriptures that are not “HINTS” to prove the point Jesus did not preexist…[Read more]

ED J……….Amen, Amen, Amen, brother you have it right > If God indwells a person He can speak first person right through his mouth i have personally had that happen before and my adversary could not even speak he was so strumpeted by those words, he had no answer. I did not even think about saying what i said it just came out of my mouth. That…[Read more]

Mike………Actually the word used there for soul in not “Nephesh ” at all  Mat 10:28, but Spirit in the proper translation not Soul.  Actually Jesus said “to fear him who can destory both Body and Spirit in the grave.”Nephesh  is written in scriptures 749 time as as Soul…………..416as life…………….100as souls…………..58as li…[Read more]

Mike………Actually the word used there for soul in not “Nephesh ” at all in Mat 10:28, but Spirit in the proper translation not Soul.  Actually Jesus said “to fear him who can destory both Body and Spirit in the grave.”Nephesh  is written in scriptures 749 time as in the Original Testament.as Soul…………..416as life…………….100as s…[Read more]

Mike and T8………….So why does not scripture tell us that God made a SOUL, then a Body< them added Spirit into them then, And all three of those parts became a living Being them. peace and love……………………………………………………………..gene

Mike……..Good them we are all in agreement. Now back to the thread, was Jesus a Morphed Being of any type? My stand is he was not. But he was a Prophesied man to be Born from among men. He was much like Cyrus who was prophesied to be born and what he would do over 200 years before his berth on this earth. He was called the servant of the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 02 2011,10:05)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 01 2011,16:32)Mike……………Problem is you are switching the subject matter, the context of those scriptures , were as you say ” not talking about  any word but the MAN Jesus  not the Word Jesus they have no connection at all………I'm not doing that at all, Gene.  …[Read more]

Kerwin………..just want to agree with you in this Spirit is indeed Intellects that control our logic, and they are indeed different Spirits and (intellects) derived from them and therefore different logics. It is crucial we come to understand what Spirits are. IMO peace and love……………………………………………………………gene

T8……….Notice carefully, for IN HIM was life. What was that life (IN) him , was it not the Eternal GOD who Jesus said was (IN) Him , now if you agree with this, then we can move on to see how this “LIFE” came to be (IN) the Man Jesus and In all Men who have (IT) in them. So this is the question1…..Was that Life that was (IN) Jesus His own…[Read more]

T8………There is NO Change at all. Would you call you word a He or She, No you call it and It because it is a OBJECT of your reference. God in John 1:1 are one in unity Just as your word and your are. God's word is an aspect of HIM Just as Your words are and aspect of YOU. You can not separate them no more then you and your word could be…[Read more]

Mike……………Problem is you are switching the subject matter, the context of those scriptures , were as you say ” not talking about any word but the MAN Jesus not the Word Jesus they have no connection at all, and just because you assume it's has some connection, or is related somehow does not make it so, right Mike?, and is not that same…[Read more]

Terricca………….Good then let both try to do that and leave out personal insults OK.

T8………No, IT is not a HE or a SHE, it is simply used in a object(-ive) sense.  If i say the elephant , “IT” moves slow I am referring to (IT) in a objective sense. “It” cognitive thought better known as (INTELLECT) is what Spirit (IS), Spirit is not a she or her  or he or him. “IT” is what is (IN) a person, who is a she or he . As i have s…[Read more]

Tim………..I don't see we are eternally Judged “PERFECT” yet, we have passed from Judgment (of death) to life that is true. WE have been Justified for Life because of Jesus Payment for our sins, but as far as being Perfect i can't really agree with that brother. I know i still have thing i do wrong at tomes , but i am trying to do better in…[Read more]

Mike………..You need to first post those very “SPECIFIC WORDS” John Said first and lets look at those WORD specifically> I assume you are referring to the words in  John 1:30  which is a repeat of John 1:15. I have already completely explained them before. but i will do it again.John 1:30…….> This is he of whom I Said (in verse 15) , A…[Read more]

Mike………….Jesus was like us completely in the sense of being a human “BEING” and never another type of Being at all. As far as him being Born by a EARTHLY FATHER his was NOT in that sense ONLY, Just as ADAM was NOT Born like we are. In that sense they both were unique even Eve was uniquely Born also.  But Jesus' unique Berth did not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,12:32)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 28 2011,21:09)Mike …………YES IN HIS MINDS EYE, Just as all who SEE GOD Do likewise.  God is a Spirit you can not see him. You simply do not believe Jesus or John when he said “ no man has seen God at any time John 1:18……> No man has seen God (AT ANY TIME), the only…[Read more]

Pierre ………..I am only giving you what you dish out. But be assured i do not resent you only (HOW and What YOU SAY) about people personally here. Not that you do that all the time though Not saying that> We need to all Just focus on the Scriptures and leave personal put down out of or discussions . Just produce what we believe to be true…[Read more]

Tim …………I agree with most all you have written there, except i believe it is not our Choice, Just as a computer can not chose its own program neither can we . God must Move on us to (CAUSE) that Choice He must initiate that process, remember Jesus said no man (CAN) come unto me except the Father Draw Him God the Father is the Master…[Read more]