Mike……….If God Speaks through me himself and does works through me as he did Jesus, If you were to honor me even as you do the Father , you would be honoring the Father (IN) me who was the one doing the works through Me. It was GOD the FATHER (IN) Christ Jesus doing the works that is why Jesus said to honor Him EVEN as you Honor the Father ,…[Read more]

To ALL………If anyone can see the FATHER (IN) Jesus they will HONOR the Son EVEN AS they do the FATHER. IMO. Because there is not difference , if a man puts his Will to death and does the Will of God he receives the same Honor as the father because it is the Fathers Will being Done NOT HIS WILL>  “ME AND THE FATHER ARE ONE”  He who see the S…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 15 2011,07:22)What you fail to realize Gene is that angels can come in the appearance of men.And we know that Jesus existed in the form of God, emptied himself and came in the flesh.You deny that he existed in the form of God.But we are simply believing that which is written.Give us one good reason as to why we should believe you…[Read more]

T8………..Wrong MY version is —- Flesh then joined with Divine Nature > Death to self by Davine Nature> then death to body> resurrection of body> Flesh with Divine Nature added back. Your rendition is the same as trinitarians , becasue they also believe first was the Davine Nature (GOD) and then the incarnation of that Davine Nature as a Man…[Read more]

To ALL…………….Back to the subject do Spirit have bodies , NO they DO NOT that are what is (IN) BODIES. This need to be understood clearly Spirit are Types of KNOWLEDGE which forms our intellects, causing us to will and desire things. There is no such thing as “SPIRIT BEINGS” .This simply is a false teaching There are Spirits (IN)…[Read more]

To all………..If you do not honor Jesus (EVEN as YOU DO the FATHER) then you are not honoring the FATHER also.I am not saying Jesus the MAN is GOD or even equal to him in any way. There is only one true GOD and there is a Glory of GOD which he gives to NO man including Jesus. and there is a GLORY of man and they are not the same Glory. BUT…[Read more]

T8……..> When Paul said that Jesus was already gone from earth , Paul was relating about his time on earth as a Human being, You preexistences move that time to before he even existed on earth Paul was talking about His earth existence, can't you understand that. Jesus had the Nature of GOD when he was ON EARTH,God was (IN HIM) and yielded and…[Read more]

T8……..> When Paul said that Jesus was already gone from earth , Paul was relating about his time on earth as a Human being, You preexistences move that time to before he even existed on earth Paul was talking about His earth existence, can't you understand that. Jesus had the Nature of GOD when he was ON EARTH,God was (IN HIM) and yielded and…[Read more]

To All…….> many think their renditions of Scriptures are “THE TRUTH”, and in fact scriptures in their “ORIGINAL” forms are true and do not contradict each other. But nearly several thousand years of influenced translators have corrupted them in some case whole sentences and Paragraphs have been add in the New Testament , the most accurate of…[Read more]

Mike……………Your refusal to see GOD the Father (IN) Jesus is obvious and as a result you cant see that when you Honor Jesus you (ARE) Honoring the Father , it was the Father (IN) Him doing the WORKS> This might help you understand, or twist like you do the rest of scriptures.John 13:33-32……> Therefore when he was gone out , Jesus said,…[Read more]

Mike………Again your refuse to answer my question Why don't you believe what Jesus said to Honor Him (EVEN AS) we do the Father? Your stupid insults do not change the fact you refuse to believe what Jesus said. Look up the Words (EVEN AS) for a start . I personally could care less if you dialog with me or not little man.peace and…[Read more]

Mike…………The truth does not change so why not hear it over and over, you have every right to keep your distorted views as well as Pierre does so lets just leave it at that OK, And please don't say it just from me, all of these have said the same things, ED J< Martian< not3in1 Paladin> Frank> Chosenone> Kejon> Shimmer> Astri> Nick, and many…[Read more]

T8……….I have told you and others here many times GOD via the LOGOS was TRULY (IN) Jesus, now let me explain if GOD willing. Pay attention brother.John 6:39………… And this is the “WILL” of him that Sent “ME,” (HOLY SPIRIT) or LOGOS, speaking, (IT) was (IN) Jesus the MAN, “that everyone that sees the SON, (Jesus) and believes on (HIM)…[Read more]

Mike………If you understood that the FATHER was TRULY (IN) JESUS, and that Jesus put HIS WILL to DEATH, you would have no Problem with Honoring Jesus even as you do the Father, seeing the FATHER was (IN) Him DOING the WORKS, Or have you forgot the scripture that says “He that sees me does not see me but the FATHER, Who was (IN) Him”. and again…[Read more]

Mike ……..And i don't need to dialog with you and your false assumptions and your “OPINIONS” as to what scriptures say . That is Just fine with Me . So perhaps you should dialog with those who Just believe as YOU do. I have seen many here who do not agree with you renditions of what Scripture means, I am Just one of the Many who have come and…[Read more]

Mike………..Have not idea what you are trying to say, You and your word are one and the same thing, as far as Glory goes concerning GOD GOD said he gives (HIS) GLORY to (NO) MAN, and I believe Jesus was a MAN> Mike your problem is you not understanding what SPIRIT REALLY IS. SPIRIT is (INTELLECT) (IT) is NOT a PERSON. GOD who is a SPIRIT and…[Read more]

MIke………….Jesus said (EVEN), (that means the same as they were not of this world ) So if you say Jesus was from above them so would be the disciples (ALSO) get it, the Word (EVEN) identifies them the disciples (EXACTLY) as Jesus was . I will quote it again for you.John 17:14……> I have given them (YOUR) Word; and the world has hated…[Read more]

T8……….I agree Life of the body is the Spirit of life (working (IN) the BLOOD, that is like the Power coupled with the internal operating system of computer , you might say this is descriptive of a  Soul, and when {POWER}breath of life is applied it comes to be a “LIVING SOUL”  a turned on computer so to speak, However it can only do what i…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 13 2011,00:51)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 12 2011,10:19)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2011,07:16)Edj.Too much water has gone under the bridge for me to read it all, since our last communication.You say that the Word is the Holy Spirit.So I want to ask you what you think the sword of the Spirit is.I think the sword is the word, but you say…[Read more]

T8………..> The Fire you mention is still from one source and it is still and exact Fire as all fire is.Spirit is Spirit and a Type of Spirit is able to be (IN) anyone, it can be transfered to one and to another , But it is the same Spirit Just as fire is the same no matter where it is lite. Jesus brother is not the LOGOS he never was But the…[Read more]