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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2011,04:14)when God created adam, he breathed the breath of life;This is the life.If you go rev11:11.And after 3 1/2 days,THE SPIRIT OF LIFE FROM GOD entered into them and they stood upon their feet.The spirit of life is the breath of life.Now what is the soul?The soul that sinneth it shall die.The spirit of life from God…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Wakeup………..Yes Jesus did exist in the Plan and will of God before Abraham but not as a sentential “BEING” Jesus was “PROPHESIED” To come into existence before the foundations of the World but did not exist until his berth on this earth as an actual “BEING” . God said the seed of the women would come and bruise the head of the serpent, He…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic question why in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Wakeup…………..some people just leave the site after a time, She was not kicked off at all. She was a very good poster and had a lot of incite, IMOpeace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………………….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (toby @ Dec. 26 2011,08:05)Hi Gene. Perhaps this might help to clarify things: “Do not be afraid, it is I, Jesus. Touch me and see that I am not 'a disembodied intellect' (a Spirit) , for a 'disembodied intellect' (a Spirit) does not have flesh and blood (a Body) as you can plainly see that I have.”Toby……….Right on brother.peace and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (abe @ Dec. 26 2011,17:56)Hi Gene, Jn. 8:58 Jesus said to them, ” Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am.”toby……….> Look up the word fro before used there it means in position of importance, and has nothing to do with time of Existence as a Sentinel “BEING” of any kind. peace and love to you and you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (toby @ Dec. 26 2011,08:13)Hi all here.What did Luke mean when he wrote: 'He (Jesus) WILL BE CALLED the SON OF GOD' (Luke 1:35) if Jesus already WAS the SON OF GOD? And at what point in the future after His birth did he BECOME the SON OF GOD?Luke says that the Holy Spirit WILL come upon Mary…It had not yet done so.Luke says that the child…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
T8,T8, T8………….You have it backward GOD'S “FULL EXPRESSION” was With and (IN) the MAN Jesus, Jesus with that power was able to put his WILL to DEATH and That left GOD'S “FULL EXPRESSION” Doing HIS WILL through AND (in) Jesus, when he was on this earth, Not when he was in some imagined Past or pre-earth existence before his berth on this…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 14 years, 8 months ago
Terricca……………So when scripture disagrees with you, you simple interpet them the way you want also right……Isa 45:7, Lament 3:38, Amos 3:6 These scriptures they are there but you just Chose change what they say and mean to meet you personal dogmas ? It seems you protest is against God and His word if you do not believe GOD created…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
MIke …… NO…….. YOU can't see intellect nor can you see Spirit either. They “THOUGHT” They had see a SPIRIT. BUT They did not see that either, So what is your POINT? You can't use that to prove any Spirit is seen, now can you ? no matter what they “THOUGHT” they had seen it certainly was NOT a SPIRIT that is OBVIOUS by the verse it sel…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
MIke………….For all our benefit, Please list all the MANY MEANINGS you BELIEVE the WORD SPIRIT HAS. LET EXAMINE THEM ONE BY ONE> OK>peace and love………………………………….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike……………God is not a “PERSON” God is a SPIRIT, of a person, YAHWEH, if you believe Jesus who said GOd was a Spirit. Spirits are NOT PERSONS they are (IT'S) and there are all kind and “TYPES” of (IT'S) Clean and unclean (IT'S), Let me quote this again for you Mike, “THE LORD (Yahweh) OUR (GOD) IS (ONE) LORD (Yahweh)” Now mike here…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike………….You question proves nothing it simply does not matter what they “think” they SAW it was NOT a SPIRIT PERIOD!. Because you can't see Spirit at all> You want to build a case on a fallacy by trying to get me to admit the disciples (THOUGHT) they seen a Spirit, So what if they (THOUGHT) they did does that have anything to do with…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike…………..I can't read your mind you could have simple said “OLD” TESTAMENT, but i prefer “ORIGINAL TESTAMENT”. To answer your question , If you got my back the you have to be there to protect me. IF God is with a person he is right there “WITH” them. You say the “PERSON” of GOD as if GOD is a PERSON, when In fact GOD is a SPIRIT and “IS”…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
KJ……> hi brother, lets look at what you claim as Jehovah saying he is a Blood relative redeemer. Isa 44:6……> Thus saith the LORD the King of ISREAL, and His (Isreal's) redeemer the LORD of Hosts; I am the first and i am the Last besides me there is (NO) GOD.Now exactly where do you see any mention of a Kinsman “blood” related redeemer…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
T8……….You speak of the Definite article (The) as in “the Word of GOD”, that is right , “the Word of God” is more the just an attribute or part of GOD, it (IS) the very expression of all of GOD himself, it represents all that God is , Just as your Words represent all you are, in the very same way, your words are not attributes, they are…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 25 2011,07:23)OK,Gene, if the Word of God is a Title for Jesus, just as son of God is, then that equally opens the possibility from what you say, that the Word that was WITH God is Jesus before he came as a man, (and before creation was brought into existence), and might I add, through him as it is written.So the Word that was…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
MIke …………..Jesus said God the Father was IN HIM Now you say God the father was with HIM , seems we have a contradiction of scriptures, or you are not preconceiving it properly becasue Jesus said it many time, that the Father was (IN) HIM, why do you deny Jesus words so strongly is there a problem with them for you. Being with someone is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike has anyone ever seen a Spirit in Scripture if so then present it , instead of saying what People “THINK” they saw. Your false assumption is you think because a person “THINKS” Something that means it EXISTS or is so.. Produce proof not suppositions, we are after facts not fiction HERE. When was the last time you saw a Spirit MIKE, so what…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike….. SO. Show us were he didn't do it them “O “wise one. Face it Mike God is not SOVEREIGN in YOUR EYES. Your so-called “FREE WILL” is the Sovereign thing you serve it appears.. Why should i or anyone Fear God if he can't bring EVIL (IN) our LIVES ?. Don't kid yourself from a minute He both has and can. This i personally KNOW beyond a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago
Mike as i and we have said many many time that is a Title not an actual thing , Jesus is called that because God the Father who is the LOGOS was and does speak “THROUGH” HIM. But that does not make him the one speaking “THROUGH HIM Simple as that. O an by the way, Frank and Ed J, Marty, Chosenone, Martian , Paladin, not3in1, shimmer, Jodi Lee,…[Read more]
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