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    Kathi…………Marty is right in this, the two sticks represent the Tribes of the Kingdom of Israel, consisting of Ten of the tribes, and the other stick was representing the Kingdom of Judah, who consisted of these tribes < Jew and Levi, and Benjamin. Many think today Israel consists of just the Jews, nothing could be further from the truth.…[Read more]

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    Toby……I think here we need to identify what a “BEING” (IS) . Perhaps i am not flowing your Meaning of “SENTINEL BEING” Lets discus this  OK? When i say a Sentinel being i believe it is like a complete person as a Man is a “LIVING SOUL”. That to me is a complete SENTINEL BEING, and another thing Toby is why does no scripture use the word…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 01 2012,14:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2011,02:06)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 29 2011,08:42)Mike………….Produce one Scripture that Say Jesus IS THE WORD OF GOD  I don't mean is CALLED THE WORD OF GODWell,Abraham was CALLED “Abram” in the scripture I just posted for Frank, right?  Are we to assume that Abraham wasn't r…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Terricca…………is that the many faces of Pierre on this site you portray.peace and love………………………………………………gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2011,14:24)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 30 2011,18:02)Bottom line is you do not believe Jesus when He said the The Father was (IN) Him,  and you just admitted it.Hi Gene,I've always “admitted it”.  It's just that “the Father is in me” doesn't really mean what you think it does.  If the Being of the Almighty God Most Hi…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2011,14:46)Gene, You already KNOW that the disciples thought they were seeing a spirit BEING when they saw Jesus.  You have admitted that this is what they thought, and have voiced your opinion that they were wrong for thinking it…………remember?If that is the case, then the word “spirit” that Luke used means…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Terricca…………You really are twisting up what i have said, Ii may be your lack of understanding English has you getting confused and fact is it appears GOD has Blinded your eyes where you can even understand a simple Post right. So you have to personally insult People and accuse them all over again. But understand this Pierre i consider the…[Read more]

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    Mike…………Peter Frampton was not Spirit either is He. So comparing apples with oranges does not work Mike. Bottom line is you do not believe Jesus when He said the The Father was (IN) Him, and you just admitted it. Jesus said it many many time in fact, But you seem to make your religion up as you go and push only what you want to, no…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2011,02:32)No Gene,The FACT of the matter is that there exist HUMAN BEINGS, although no scripture says the phrase “HUMAN BEINGS”.So why would you try to disprove the existence of SPIRIT BEINGS by using the argument “No scripture says the phrase 'SPIRIT BEINGS' ” ?  ???Gene, instead of diverting away from my point, let me…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Terricca…………..A ship is called a She is it a she, no it is not a She, A radio is a radio becasue it is a radio, but that does not always apply to a title give something. Common sense should tell you that> A name of title does not alway mean it is the actual thing. Wisdom is Called a She in scripture do you think it really is a SHE? come…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 29 2011,12:12)And when Jesus prayed to God, Gene?  Was it the “word/light/God Himself” inside of Jesus praying to Himself?Or do you just get to pick and choose which times it was God speaking directly, and which times it was Jesus speaking?Mike………..YOUR THE ONE PICKING AND CHOOSING, So was GOD the FATHER “REALLY IN…[Read more]

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    Shmmer…………Good to see your back sis. You do have a Point , both may be called a faithful witness. Jesus was Faithful to GOD and GOD is always faithful to his WORD. Good point sis. Shimmer tell me do you still have your site going i tried to find it but was unable to.peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Mike……….Why would a airplane be called a Bird if in fact it was not a Bird, same argument and same application.  Jesus never said he was GOD' S Word in fact Just the opposite He said the Word he was speaking were not HIS.  I can't believe you can't understand the Mike.  A title  can be a form of representation and not the actual thing.  Su…[Read more]

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    Mike………..so that is your answer to the question , well i guess we can say whatever we want to then, seen PROOF is NOT REQUIRED and we can Just change scripture to mean what we want it to Right?> Now at lest your begin honest about your so called “PROOFS” may this will help you to see your the problem with what you say scripture is saying…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 29 2011,07:39)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2011,19:28)Hi T8,The rider on the white horse is called “the word” of God. (Rev.19:13) What comes out of his mouth is a sword called “The Word” of God.(1)”the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:” (Eph.6:17)Ephesians 6:17 tells us that the sword, which is “The Word”, is of “The…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Mike………….Produce one Scripture that Say Jesus IS THE WORD OF GOD  I don't mean is CALLED THE WORD OF GOD but IS the word of God.  Forcing the text to say what in fact it is not saying is an assumption on your part as you do many scriptures that way making them say what in fact they are not saying. IMOpeace and l…[Read more]

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    Mike………..So produce the word “SPIRIT BEING” in any Scripture  in the entire bible then. I still say Spirits are what is (IN) Beings they are not the Beings themselves. An angel is not a Spirit “BEING” he is a Being that has Spirit (IN) him.  Where does it say we become “SPIRIT BEINGS” at in scripture, and don't try to force the text to say t…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 28 2011,12:28)Quote (toby @ Dec. 27 2011,14:48)Gene is continually defining what he thinks an Angel/Spirit is, but Mikeboll never seems to say what he thinks one is – just keeps attacking Gene?That's a little short-sighted for someone who admits he might have missed the posts where I defined what I think a spirit is.  And…[Read more]

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    Quote (abe @ Dec. 28 2011,12:38)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 27 2011,03:50)Quote (abe @ Dec. 26 2011,17:56)Hi Gene,     Jn. 8:58     Jesus said to them, ” Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I Am.”toby……….> Look up the word fro before used there it means in position of importance, and has nothing to do with time of Existence as…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2011,19:28)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 28 2011,18:37)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 28 2011,16:18)“The Word” is the “HolySpirit” of God.(1)Did you ever answer what the Sword of the Spirit was Edj? I can't remember. Remind me if you did answer. I don't expect an essay. Just a paragraph or so.What find confusing with your view is that the term sword…[Read more]

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