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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Pierre…………That is because of all the confusion out there in the world about , Jesus Preexisting as a Angels or a GOD or a what ever. Your fellow Preexistences the Trinitarian have done their Job of confusing people well brother They like you have muddied the waters of truth so much no one can see the truth hardly, unless God is With them…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Thanks God does Hear our Prayers brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 14 years, 7 months ago

    Wakeup……….God can't recreate himslef either, becasue It (the new GOD) would have to always exited. :) peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………..gene

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    Mike………..Your are demonstrating a Adversarial  (Ha-Satan) Spirit (intellect ) to me, just as Peter did to Jesus but he still loved Peter and i still love you brother. My God help you to see what i am saying at least Mike.peace and love………………………………………………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 10 2012,15:49)Frank, how many people have you told the following about yourself.You existed in the form of God, emptied yourself, came in the flesh, and will eventually die and be in the glory you had with God before the world began.Is the answer none? I thought so.So why is it that if Jesus is like us and started life on his…[Read more]

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    Quote (Pastry @ Jan. 10 2012,17:46)Gene,  and where is say “in the latter days I shall pour forth of or from My Spirit (intellect) upon ALL FLESH, that has already happened. IMOIf this was true, than God certainly did not include “all” flesh.WakeupEze 21:26   Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this not the s…[Read more]

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    Mike…………Why don't you list us all your “MANY” conceived “DIFFERENT MEANINGS” of the word Spirit. Lets see maybe i can give you some help to start with, 1, you believe a SPIRIT Is a BODY, 2, You believe Celestial or Heavenly BODIES as SPIRIT BODIES, 3, You believe Natural means a BODY of earth, 4, you believe “SPIRITUAL” is a BODY Itself,…[Read more]

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    Toby………..Yes i do understand that, Spirit is not active without a body to act (IN) and (ON).  (IT) goes about in “ARID” Places looking for REST. Arid symbolizing DRY (WATERLESS), All life Forms have “WATER” and this seem to be the medium Spirit can influence and without water it seem to be able to have no effect it appears. It can not…[Read more]

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    To all…………Has anyone heard from our brother Kerwin lately, I know he had Major Kidney problems. We should all pray for him, i fear he may have taken a turn for the worse.peace and love to you all…………………………………………….gene

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    Wakeup……….What is the Last days and when did they start? To me the last days has to be taken into context of what GOD considerer as the last days, and the clue we have is how God accounts times, Peter explained this when he said “a thousand years is as a day with God and a day is as a thousand years. another words one equals another. This…[Read more]

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    Toby…………..I do believe Spirit (EXIST), So from that stand point of Existence I agree with your assessment, but what i see a Being as, is a complete make up of something like a Body + Spirit = a LIVING SOUL or complete Being.  The term (BEING) (can), simply mean to exist also,  so from that view i would have to agree with you. My view of S…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Trust me you are completely wrong on this  issue, your understanding of Spirit having all kind of Meanings is not right. The word Spirit is not many different things, Spirit are NOT BODIES of Any kind never were and never will be either. You trying to mix up Paul's words as agreeing with you is also wrong Because Paul say there are…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,14:18)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:59)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,18:11)Hi Mike:What God had spoken pertaining to Jesus became a reality, and Jesus began to exist in the flesh.Okay Marty,Let's try out your theory with the scripture:1 In the beginning was WHAT GOD HAD SPOKEN PERTAINING TO JESUS, and WHAT GOD HAD…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,03:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 08 2012,10:15)This is why i believe Angels do have Bodies of some kind……….And you are correct about that, Gene.Mike………..That, though has nothing to do with SPIRITS being any kind of a body as YOU PRESUME it Means.  Unless you have changed your mind? Spirit are NOT…[Read more]

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    Terricca………..Not really sure of exactly what you are saying brother, But GOD is OMNIPRESENT , When GOD'S “WILL” is Done He will be in all and Though ALL. They kingdom come “THY” WILL be done on earth as in Heaven. That is when God will be ALL and in ALL and THROUGH ALL>Pierre there is more.John 17:14………And (NOW) come I to thee; and…[Read more]

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    Hi Toby……….we do agree a lot on this subject brother. I was quoting Heb 1:7 where it says And of (or about) the Angels he says, Who makes his Angels Spirits, and His ministers a flame of fire. God is the one (WHO) “Makes” their Spirits and puts (IT) (IN) them the Angels, and they intern only do his will. This scripture Mike and other take…[Read more]

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    Quote (dew @ Jan. 08 2012,18:06)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2012,16:41)Hi Mike B.sorry to take so long to respond; I love questions.This is how we learn.I have just explained it to EDJ,and I will explain it to you.The word was God, the word is inside him.same with your word is inside you,but you are in charge,your word is not in charge. You decide…[Read more]

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    ED J……….. I also tend to agree with Journey42 on this brother, The Great and Notable Day of the LORD (GOD ALMIGHTY) does not come until the end of the Millennial reign of Jesus and the Saints on this earth. At the end of the thousand year reign comes those seven trumpets of GOD. IMO peace and love…[Read more]

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    To all……..> Morphing means changing from one state of 'EXISTENCE” To another STATE of “EXISTENCE” Like a Caterpillar Morph into a Butterfly, but Both have Bodies in either state of existence. There form changes but there substance does not change, they in either state are a Physical existence. Preexistence believe Jesus was a Morphed Being…[Read more]

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    Toby……….I agree with most of what you are saying here with the exception of Angels (NOT) having a BODY  a Material body. Jesus said that we would be as the angels in Heaven and after his resurrection he was like them (IMO) He could appear or disappear go through doors eat food and feel and touch, Angel's did the same thing they appeared and…[Read more]

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