Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2012,02:54)Quote (toby @ Jan. 14 2012,15:32)Hi Gene.I think you are reading Scriptures, and seeing constant references to 'Angels' as Spirits – that…………..act within boundaries. (what Mikeboll self-defines as 'A Body' – and you have just almost concurred with, by the way!)Gene often concurs with me.  He just…[Read more]

Toby………..The difference i see from you view is the basic understanding  of what Spirit (IS). I mean (ALL SPIRITS) even GOD. Spirit is nothing but (INTELLECT) Period it has (NO) POWER of IT OWN. It can only influence and thereby control what it is (IN) . What it is in is its POWER SOURCE therefor if it is in a man it can only effectively use…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,10:07)2 Corinthians 4:4 as it reads in most translations:whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.For much of my christian life life I was misled to believe that the “god of this age”…[Read more]

Mike……..how many times do i have to tell you the Definition of Spirit (IN its (SIMPLEST MEANINGS) is “INTELLECT”, i am not going to debate with you about a scripture where it is says THEY “THOUGHT” THEY SAW”, when not one scripture  in the entire bible say anyone every truly “SAW a SPIRIT BODY .  I can't help it if you keep trying to make s…[Read more]

ED j……..The last Day in God plan (IS) the Thousand Year reign of Jesus and The Saints on this earth and is about ready to Start soon, It is the REST PERIOD for all the EARTH, remember where it says “there remains a Sabbaths rest unto the people of GOD”< even the natures of animals will be changed we are told, Evil will be removed from the…[Read more]

Terricca……….” Whoso shreds man's blood, BY MAN SHALL HIS BLOOD BE SHED: for in the “IMAGE” of GOD made he “MAN” and again ” For since by “MAN” came death, “BY MAN” came the resurrection  of or from the dead. Pierre do you see any “MORPHED ANGLES” Mentioned their or does it SAY by a ANGEL Came the resurrection from the Dead? No it say “BY A…[Read more]

Quote (ftk @ Dec. 18 2011,22:17)Pierre:  ………TO DO WHAT ?EVERY GOOD WORK; WHAT ARE THE GOOD WORK…..Jesus went about doing good! God is good! Good works are God works. Total salvation unto mankind is the “work” of God! Works of God are any form of love expressed that man cannot do of himself. Works of kindness and deeds of kindness that a…[Read more]

Terricca…………….Good advice you should take it to yourself . And try not to be as the Stiff-necked Isrealites of the past were. your problem is Pierre, you are placing us in that group , but eliminate yourself. If Jesus were here i believe this scripture he would recite to you IMO, “ Why behold the speck or splinter in you brothers eye and…[Read more]

Terricca……….What wakeup is saying is GOD “SPEAKS” ,so what does he SPEAK With, “WORDS” is the answer, So then GOD WORDS (ARE) with HIM> Hope that helped Pierre.peace and love………………………………………………gene

Toby………..You ask me about ANGELS as regards to Spirit, Well i believe Angels are Beings who have SPIRIT (IN) Them put there by GOD. God Created Angels , so they must be created beings. You are right about the word Messengers can mean Angles that is true. But do angles just materialize and then dematerialize , i would say No they do not no…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2012,06:30)Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2012,21:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,12:35)And until then, it didn't exist?Mike b.Everything created had a beginning.agree?There was a beginning when God spoke to create.agree.before things were created,God did not speak anything into existence. But his word is in him always.Therefore…[Read more]

Mike…………I believe Yahweh is more accurate , But Ed j Has a point also. So rather YHVH or Yahweh , either is more accurate then Jehovah in my opinion. Frank uses the word Joshuah for Jesus and that is also more accurate, how ever we all know who is being talked about either way. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 12 2012,11:20)YAHSHUA: DID HE PRE-EXIST?An Explanation Of Our ViewsBy Voy Wilks10/23/90Did the Messiah pre-exist in some form before he was conceived of Mary, the Jewish woman? Many people believe he did, while many believe he did not. Most if not all of these people seem to rely on the same source of information – the…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 12 2012,12:52)Gene, which one of the definitions (from the dictionaries), do you suppose state that a Spirit has a Body?From what I see NONE, not a single one.In fact, they patently state, that Spirit does not have a body – by virtue of being 'Incorporeal' and 'As opposed to Matter'.No matter how it is stated, nothing – in…[Read more]

Mike ………..That also is true. He does consider our motives and respect for him when in his presence. I know there is Both Goodness and Severity with GOD. I have tasted both, And the saying “smite a fool and the simple are made wise” always applies with our GOD. WE need to all be real somber when we come before him. peace and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2012,11:15)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2012,08:22)Mike…………Why don't you list us all your “MANY” conceived “DIFFERENT MEANINGS” of the word Spirit.Okay Gene,From NETNotes:1) the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal,coeternal with the Father and the Son1a) sometimes referred to in a way…[Read more]

Toby……….Let take it on step at a time, You may have misunderstood me about me saying spirits is not in a Body, in fact i believe they certainly are in Bodies in fact all life Forms have spirit (IN) them or they simply have no life at all. I think where we may differ is you seem to think spirits in ability, you said demon spirit could never…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2012,17:54)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2012,12:02)Hi Wakeup,For the FOURTH time now, you have refused to DIRECTLY answer my DIRECT questions.  Maybe if I post just one at a time?  1.  Who had glory alongside his God before the world was created?  (John 17:5) Mikeb.so sorry mike I am so slow to understand.The word has glo…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2012,14:19)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2012,11:50)Hi Wakeup,Here are the two points again:1.  Who had glory alongside his God before the world was created?  (John 17:5) 2.  If all things were said to have been created through “The Word”, “The Son of God” and through “Our Lord Jesus Christ”, then it stands to reason that th…[Read more]

Georg………..We are also in the latter days, Just as everything sense the midst of Wednesday is also the latter days of the week we are also in the latter days of the seven thousand year plan of God. God Poured forth of HIS (INTELLECT) Spiirt upon (ALL) flesh, until Jesus all things were kept in secret. Not even the prophets knew what they were…[Read more]