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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2012,07:19)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2012,07:14)Shimmer ………..I could no have said it any clearer………….Gene,Are you even aware that Shimmer is claiming that angels don't have bodies?  ???Mike…..Are you even “AWARE” that Angels was  not the issue she was discussing in that post,  But was talking ab…[Read more]

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    Mike………..”POSSIBILITY”, Why should i have to produce all those scriptures again, you will just say well does that mean its not “POSSIBLE” for both to be right?  And on and on it will go. But then again that is EXACTLY what “MYSTERY RELIGION” IS right? You have these vague unspecific texts and Just force them to say what in FACT they are…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 19 2012,19:21)Mike.You are making it so complicated.Firstly, Jesus was a Jew, and He came to His own.He spoke as a Jew, with Jewish understanding.You have to go back and understand the Jewish way of thinking, to understand a lot of the Scriptures, Mike.  I think that the Jews would have had a Good understanding of 'God' and…[Read more]

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    Quote (ftk @ Jan. 19 2012,22:21)t8:  Quote The greek word used in this dissertation of 1John is: ''Cosmos''….adorning world…arraignment….order… I believe the reference is to the Jewish religious order that was being replaced by faith and grace!1 John 5:19We know that we are children of God, and that…….OLD RELIGIOUS ORDER…. is under…[Read more]

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    T8…………So we are to “HATE this WORLD” but Scripture say GOD so loved the World that he gave his only begotten Son to it. To save it.  So in you theology its OK for God to love the World but not us right? There is nothing wrong with this World, it is the System of Governments and the way people live, thy focus  is on the earth and t…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 19 2012,05:42)Wakeup said to ftk:Quote FTK.John.12:31.Now is the judgement of this WORLD(not age)Now shall the prince of this WORLD(not age) be cast out.(These are the Lords words.)Jesus said, “NOW the prince of this world is cast out.” Jesus said that he was cast out “NOW.”So how could he blind the minds of men if he…[Read more]

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    To All………..There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, according to Jesus, So how is it that your SATAN is the GOD of any thing? MY GOD is SOVEREIGN over (ALL HIS CREATION) and that includes this PRESENT EARTH. If you make Satan your GOD then that is who you worship then while SATAN can be considered to be (personified) as a Prince, like Jesus did (IT)…[Read more]

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    Happyman……..Yes there is no resurrection in scripture that does not contain a Physical body. Some think a physical body can not exist in heaven , but was not Elijah taken into the heavens with a physical Body, did not the three cast into the furnace at the command of King Nebuchadnezzar With physical bodies stay alive and come out of that…[Read more]

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    Seekingtruth………….There is no scripture that says Jesus changed into anything other then his resurected body, No exists. Jesus is not a Spirit Body at all He is a Physical Man with Spirit back into him and he is once again a LIVING SOUL, He once was dead his Spirit was out of any body, But Now he is alive with a Physical Body with Spirit…[Read more]

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    Mike………….WE are beings that have Spirits also so are we not then “SPIRIT BEINGS” also? Why do you say Just Angels and GOD and Jesus are Spirit “Beings” then. Fact is Mike you are making a difference between them by saying they are Spirit “BEINGS” while we are NOT. And if you were truly honest about this you would admit there is no Words…[Read more]

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    MIke…… NO your not getting off that easily, You said they “thought” the (SAW) a Spirit BEING. so tell us how does anyone (SEE) a Spirit “BEING” Mike. My stand was they did not (SEE) a SPIRIT BEING becasue Spirit can not be SEEN> There is NO DEFINITION of a SPIRIT “BEING” in SCRIPTURE, and if you look up the definition of “BEING” YOU will see…[Read more]

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    Terricca……………..Amazing NOT so much of ONE SCRIPTURE says JESUS was a MORPHED ANGELS or for that MATTER a MORPHED BEING of ANY KIND, In fact what you posted Proves He came from the Roots of JESSE That alone Should have told you where Jesus came from. He was never “MORPHED” from any FORM to a MAN, HE was a decedent of JESSE and KING DAVID…[Read more]

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    Tim……….I also agree with what you and KJ have said regarding Satan, I believe (Ha Satan) is simply the spirit (intellect) of an adversary it can be in anyone at times even “PETER” or us.And when it comes to being an adversary to GOD word we must Master it. This spirit is in all humans and GOD also. it is both good and can be bad also. Let…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 17 2012,03:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 16 2012,03:17)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 15 2012,10:05)Toby……….I think our biggest difference is i see Spirit as ASPECTS of a BEING, while you seem to see them as COMPLETE beings,Actually Gene,You see spirits as “complete beings” in the form of angels.  You just won't…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Aren't you changing your position some what, Your belief is Jesus Is (A )”SPIRIT BODY” Like you think you are going to be. Now you say Jesus is NOW a SPIRIT BEING, “AND” Has a Glorious “BODY” Where did i ever say Jesus does not have a “BODY” . Thought you believed angels (ARE) Spirits and Spirits do not have bodies. Thought you…[Read more]

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    Journey42………..I also believe that we now and in the future will all have “BODIES” but the difference between me a Tody seem to be about Angels He does have a valid point, the difference is I believe we are Just a “LITTLE” below the angel becasue we can experience Death while they can not it appears.  Scripture say thou hast made him a…[Read more]

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    Toby……….Spirit is compared to water, it can be apportioned to anyone, but it is still SPIRIT (intellects). It is like you have many Spirit attributes in you, but you are one body with those spirits (IN) it. God is composed of SEVEN distinct SPIRITS, these make one GOD. These seven different intellects make up one GOD, just a seven bullets…[Read more]

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    Terricca……………I and other have produced hundreds of them but you have yet to acknowledge any other them or test them either.So in that sense we could careless what you say also, Seeing you can't back up what you say with any Scriptures at all even though you falsely accuse other of doing that, when in fact that is exactly what you do.…[Read more]

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    MIke…………….Calm down don't have a fit over this, You keep asking me for a the definition of what Spirit (IS) I have told you hundreds of times it seams like, SPIRIT, (IS) (INTELLECT), that produces (COGNATE THOUGHTS) No more no Less. They come in all TYPES and  KINDS, Wisdom, Truth, Adversarial Ha Satan), clean and unclean . These are…[Read more]

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    To All………………Back to the subject ….I maintain Jesus was NOT a MORPHED Being from another existence prior to his berth on this earth. He was prophesied to come into existence from the beginning he was in GOD Plan and Purpose for man KIND all along from the very start of the Creation of Man. He was from the seed of Jesse and King…[Read more]

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