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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Frank……….I have said to them many times God's Words are His words , just as our word are our words unless we as Jesus was, are quoting someone else's words. Non of them can give you a truthful answer to those questions brother. I am glad we can say, to us and Jesus there is ONLY “ONE TRUE” GOD. peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    Pierre…….So to you that means I am calling MIKE CHRIST. That has nothing to do with calling anyone a Christ. in the English language that is> Funny i don't see mike say that Pierre. Just you. IMOpeace and love……………………………………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2012,11:09)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 25 2012,18:03)Terricca……………..I simply quoted the Scriptures exactly as it is written and what it exactly means . Saying you believe it differently does not mean a thing , Show where i produced it wrong , and don't give me this I need to read all of Paul's scriptures stuff…[Read more]

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    Pierre………..Where have i Made Mike Christ now, can't you even respond at all, without lying about what people say. Pierre you are simply an ACCUSER of the brethren and a FALSE ONE AT THAT> But i just consider the source and let it go. I understand your lack of English learning and simply over look you snide remarks Pierre.peace and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Terricca……………..I simply quoted the Scriptures exactly as it is written and what it exactly means . Saying you believe it differently does not mean a thing , Show where i produced it wrong , and don't give me this I need to read all of Paul's scriptures stuff , I have read them all many, many, times and they agree with exactly what i…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 23 2012,12:15)frankwho did really die on the cross ?Jesus ,the man or the son of God ? or the Word of God the first of creation ;?we know they are all the same person but first THE WORD OF GOD ,AND THE SON ;IN HEAVEN  ,then later on earth Jesus Christ the messiah and still the son of God and as per John still the WORD OF…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2012,02:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 25 2012,09:09)Wm…………Simply Put, Spirit is (INTELLECT) of the MIND, Therefor it says ,Eph 4:23……> And be renewed in the SPIRIT of YOU MIND. Making Spirit mean all kind of different thing only causes confusions and take away the simple meaning and understanding of the…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………….NO,  Trying to make spiritual things into “BODIES” is  a Metaphysical carnal expression of the world and the way it thinks. That is being CARNAL NATURED , Which you seem to exhibit the best of any here.  A mind that can't tell the difference between  a Spiritual Body and a real BODY and a mind that can't take dis…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2012,10:40)Okay Gene,I accept that explanation as sensible.  How about this one:Romans 8:3 NET © For God achieved what the law could not do because  it was weakened through the flesh. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,What does it mean that God SE…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 24 2012,07:25)Let me get this straight.You guys (KJ, Gene, ftk) are saying that God is the ruler of this age/world?That is what it sounds like to me.T8…………..Yes God is the over all ruler of this world and all thing in and on the earth , Now God uses a lot of thing to bring about his purposes , he installed bad ruler , he…[Read more]

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    WJ………..Well we do have that in common at least Satan is not the God of any age in our understandings. I agree with you there, now if only we could agree Jesus is not a GOD  nor a “MORPHED ANGEL”we would probably be right together on many scriptures Brother.peace and love to you and yours……………………………………..gene

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    Terrica………That effort is to enter into that “REST” and how do we it  ” THROUGH FAITH” In the finished Work of Jesus CHRIST, not “OUR WORKS”, or haven't you also read this,  “NOT” of “WORKS of the LAW” LEST any   BOAST  For the LAW is for the sinner and the “UNGODLY”. You seem to be still (UNDER THE WORKS OF THE LAW) so you are unable to acc…[Read more]

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    Quote (ftk @ Jan. 24 2012,22:33)Pierre and Ed: I will certainly try. I feel like you or anyone else that believes they have anything to do with their salvation in Christ Jesus they would be in error/sin!I believe the package deal of total salvation is a perfect/all-inclusive, perfecting package of forgiveness, cleansing, making whole, worthiness,…[Read more]

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    Pierre………..All those things you listed (ARE) Thoughts or (INTELLECTS) of the “MIND” and that is what SPIRIT (IS)> And that is all it (IS)> So why do you and Mike try so desperately to make Spirits as Beings (like Satan) or Wisdom as “JESUS” then? When Spirits are not “BEINGS” but what are (IN) beings. They have NO Bodies of any kind at…[Read more]

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    Wm…………Simply Put, Spirit is (INTELLECT) of the MIND, Therefore it says ,Eph 4:23……> And be renewed in the SPIRIT of YOU MIND. Making Spirit mean all kind of different thing only causes confusions and take away the simple meaning and understanding of the Word SPIRIT, Making Spirit into a “PERSON” is a false teaching , Like Wisdom being…[Read more]

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    Pierre………….O really then try moving without a Body try typing you computer with out a body to do it with. If anyone here has no idea what he is talking about it is YOU Pierre. The control source can come from the Spirit it is (IN) our power “sources” is the Bodies we have. Spirit influence the Mind and it controls the POWER SOURCE the…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2012,07:38)Gene, address the points of my previous post, please.Let's say your dad's name was “James”, (because I don't know your father's name).Would it make sense for anyone to say, “Gene was the son of James, ACCORDING TO THE FLESH”?  YES or NO?Mike……….Yes it would make sense if he were referencing my Fleshly…[Read more]

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    Terricca……….So you Just ignore the Post i posted to you again and come out with all kinds of stuff i never even Mentioned or ever said i disagreed with. Trying to make me into something I am Not , as i said before, the scripture that fit you the best is this one , “Why behold the mote in thy brothers eye and see not the beam in your own…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………..Our Bodies are the POWER Source that a Spirit can Use, and these bodies can be increased in POWER as in the case of Samson to refelct what the spirits in them want it (the Bodies to do). Angels or messengers of GOD have the same kind of Bodies as we Have but are stronger then we at times when GOD is using them for his…[Read more]

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    T8……….NO, i do not believe that brother, I believe GOD the FATHER is the “ONLY TRUE GOD” He even himself installs leaders to bring down a Nation of to raise it Up , He is the ONLY TRUE GOD of all the earth and the Universe, He said Himself “HE is the (only) GOD , and He said He looked for another GOD and said there were None but HIM. Want…[Read more]

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