MIke………..We can Know because the only thing that could die about Adam was His BODY. The spirit does not die (IT) goes back to him that gave (IT)> But the BODY DIES. No where did God say that there body would be a different, in fact those bodies lives almost 1000 years as they were. Mike can't you see you are “FORCING text and Contexts to…[Read more]

WM…………You see they change every thing to meet their dogmas and false teachings. Pierre said he see nothing of the kind or indicated anywhere in scripture. He fails to read ,Gen 2:16…..And the “LORD” GOD commanded the man, saying (now notice Pierre) “of “EVERY TREE” in the garden thou mayest “freely” eat; (that included the “TREE of…[Read more]

Frank…….You are right the “EXISTED” there was talking about when Jesus “EXISTED” on EARTH and Has nothing to do with a Pre-earth existence at all. Frank………..that pdf file you posted me, see if you can get MIKE or T8 to read it , it was quite good and to the point offer it to Mike and T8 and see what they do with It. peace and love to you…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2012,02:27)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 30 2012,02:12)ED J……….Yes i do believe they were really there fighting on the side of Israel in that battle brother. peace and love…………………………………………………………geneHI Gene,At what point do you believe the opposing army saw them?God blessEd J…[Read more]

WM……….. Notice Pierre does not answer what you posted as true or not , he just changes the subject, rather then “ADMIT” YOU are absolutely RIGHT. It would have made NO DIFFERENCE,of what kind of body they had, those BODIES would have lived for ever they simply would have NEVER DIED, Just as GOD SAID THEY WOULD Have. Problem some here do not…[Read more]

MIke and Pierre……….Representing something and “ACTUALLY Being That SOME is completely different, a picture or Idol is NOT the REAL thing. But becasue you both are Metaphysical believers you simply in you minds make it a real thing Just like the Greek and all Pagan Do, O an by the way Mike, that golden calf was no GOD at all, and what it…[Read more]

ED J……….Yes i do believe they were really there fighting on the side of Israel in that battle brother. I an believe Angels do have Bodies of some kind and it was Not a “SPIRIT BODY” as no such thing as a SPIRIT “BODY” exists IMO. GOD makes the Spirits of the Angels or messengers he does not make them a “SPIRIT BODY” Being. He gives them…[Read more]

Tim…………Well put, truly it is a matter of FAITH brother.peace and love to you and yours Tim…………………………………………………..gene

Toby……….I believe God will be there God in the Future by this process Brother, Eze 11:19……> And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and al the abominations thereof from thence 19….>   And i will give them one heart and (I) will put a “NEW SPIRIT” within you; and (I) will take the stony…[Read more]

To All……….>Jesus is still a son of Man, what makes a Man different then GOD? , Man has a Physical BODY, while GOD has no Body He is Spiirt.Jesus said when the So of MAN RETURNS, No where doe he say when a SPIRIT “BEING” returns now does He”, Show us one resurrection in scripture where there is no body involved. Scripture say (IT) this body…[Read more]

Shimmer………I am fine sis, thanks: a body according to the dictionary is a PHYSICAL OBJECTS, it could be solid liquid, or gas, or combinations of these elements and is never represented as a SPIRIT in any dictionary definition to my Knowledge. I think me or someone else posted it a while back.I really don't believe Mike want to post the…[Read more]

Mike………..Yes it does , did not Paul say that when he mentioned the Gods of the GREEKS , They had a FALSE GOD for every thing there was, do you really believe those statues that were there were indeed “REAL” God's , do you need me to show you scripture where God himself said they were?. Can Do it!. I can't even believe i am having this…[Read more]

Mike………..the God he is talking about are the “FALSE” Gods of people WHY YOU ASK? Because God would be counteracting himself if he said there were true other Gods. That should have been obvious to you Mike and should not needed to be answered at all> IMOpeace and love……………………………………………..gene

Mike………According to those Isrealites actions He was not there God or they would have served Him and Obeyed Him, God was talking of a future when they would acknowledge Him in faithfulness as there “TRUE” GOD , even though He was the “ONLY TRUE GOD” anyway, according to Jesus. Mike you argument is with Jesus Not Me.  You either truly believe…[Read more]

MIke………..To to you God changes His speak to match you Dogmas , it is no wonder you so confused about what the word of God. First it is this and then it is the and takes on “NEW MEANINGS” that does explain a lot about how you think MIKE>Waht you need to do is Go back and read the book of Isaiah where God spoke about HIMSELF and come and tell…[Read more]

JK>………..John also said no man has seen God at (ANY) time, YOU simply can not see SPIRIT brother.peace and love

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 29 2012,00:03)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 27 2012,15:59)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 27 2012,10:13)MIke………..That is all you have to do is show us ONE PERSON IN SCRIPTURE THAT HAS EVER SEEN A SPIRIT. It is JUST THAT SIMPLE, Don't give us the garbage of what some “THOUGHT” they saw and use it as a Proof Text that there (ARE) such…[Read more]

Mike……..Why shouldn't he share in our humanity after all he was a human being, and as it says, since by man came sin By a man came redemption from sins” If Jesus was a “PREEXISTING” Angel, he would never qualify for that position.  You have yet to produce ONE SCRIPTURE that say HE WAS a “MORPHED ANGEL” not even ONE, AND heres some points for…[Read more]

ED j………..Right let's establish what SPIRIT REALLY MEANS and it doesn't mean a body of any kind what so ever.  And as far as a WILL That is “FREE” or as you and some say a “FREE WILL” Post one scripture that Say we HAVE A FREE WILL (IN US)> To even say a WILL is “FREE” is an OXYMORON. NO SUCH TING EXISTS a a WILL THAT IS TOTALLY FREE all…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2012,11:57)Gene,God also said that apart from Him, there was no savior.  So, which do you believe:A.  Jesus is NOT our Savior?B.  Jesus IS God Himself?Which one, Gene?Mike……….This has nothing to do with the subject at hand nor the scriptures I QUOTED. Again you try to divide scripture and make them contradict th…[Read more]