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    To All………….All you who believe in SPIRIT BODIES Pleas describe those “SPIRIT BODIES” what do the LOOK LIKE. I for one have never SEEN a SPIRIT BODY. WHY you ask , becasue SPIRITS do NOT have bodies they are what is (IN) BODIES. Just that simple. NO “MYSTERY RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS NEED > IMOpeace and…[Read more]

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    To ALL………..Question (IS) can anyone PROVE Jesus preexisted his berth on earth as a SENTINEL BEING?I have yet to see any PROOF from any scripture that Show any MORPHING Process at all> Trying to force text and contexts to convey what is not “CLEARLY WRITTEN” is no PROOF of ANYTHING> IMOpeace and love to…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………..Tell us how God can be the GOD of the DEAD seeing they are DEAD and KNOW NOTHING have NO THOUGHTS to even think with.  “O” but that is right YOU believe their “SOUL”  is still alive after a person dies even though scripture say completely the opposite , it say the dead know nothing for in the day they die their thoughts p…[Read more]

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    T8………..God is the God of the DEAD  and the living both or how can they be resurected ?, Can the dead resurrect the dead? What that scripture means T8 is this . The dead person  HAS NO GOD AT ALL , becasue they are DEAD, So HOW COULD GOD BE THERE GOD?  HOW can the “DEAD” worship HIM? They can't So He is not a GOD of the DEAD, but of the LI…[Read more]

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    WM and Toby……………I also believe we shall have Physical bodies made Perfect by the Spirit in them, at the resurrection, Just as Jesus has, we will still be Son of Man Just as Jesus is with regards to our bodies and sons of God By the indwelling Spirit of GOD in those physical Bodies.  And as concerning Angels if they are only “SPIRIT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 31 2012,14:18)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 31 2012,10:42)T8……….Wrong the LOGOS became FLESH (IN) Jesus. The Logos is NOT JESUS, Jesus plainly said the FATHER who is the LOGOS was (IN,IN,IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN, ) HIM. When are you going to (START) to Believe JESUS T8 ? Peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    T8…….You mean like Where God said there is “NO” GOD Beside HIM> So it seems YOU T8 are against scriptures.?  Or should we believe your rendition of scriptures T8 and reject what GOD himself said. I think you need to crucify your WILL here T8 and start believing what GOD and Jesus has said..  Here are some more scriptures you can deny while y…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 31 2012,12:12)Gene,I agree with you that Jesus was raised in the exact same flesh, blood, and bone body in which he died.As far as your “body” definition, don't you think you should give ME the definition of “spirit” in Luke 24:37 first?  I've been asking for two months.Mike………..I have told you hundred times a…[Read more]

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    T8………..So God the Father, takes the back seat TO YOUR SATAN in your dogmas of this world right? He is not “Really ” SOVEREIGN over all things according to you, right T8 . T8, you are wrong on this one brother.peace and love to you and yours T8…………………………………………gene

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    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 31 2012,23:05)ftk, I am quoting pertinent verses that back up that Satan is the God of this age, the ruler/prince of this world, and that the evil one who is Satan is in control of this world. You are suppose to take each verse on their own. I didn't intend you to join them together and make up one verse.Your misconception ftk,…[Read more]

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    Wakeup ……> good post brother. And i believe Georg agree with it also.peace and love…………………………………….gene

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    Mike………Please tell me you do understand this , God was Behind all saviors He sent , the key words there Mike is “APART FROM ME” GOD was the one who sent them and empowered them to carry out his purposes and Plans. Therefore He was the TRUE Savior even if He used someone else to bring about His Purpose. Mike please tell me you do understand…[Read more]

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    MIke ………Toby and I both ask you to define the WORD BODY from a creditable dictionary for us. Maybe that will help ypu understand what a body (IS). Now you ask did God raise up Jesus same DEAD BODY that answer is YES HE DID ,  The ONLY DIFFERENCE is that BODY could NO LONGER DIE. Why do i say it was the same body> Psa16:10…….> For thou…[Read more]

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    Mike……….Why are you doing this, you unlike Pierre Know, full well know what we are saying and it is in accordance with scriptures and you Know that , so why not just agree on it for a change, Why must you seek to argue about everything we post even with scriptures to prove out points? Let me quote JESUS again one last time thou art the “…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 30 2012,22:32)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 28 2012,08:42)John 1 Properly Translated by the Late Professor of the Exegesis of Holy Scripture at the University of OxfordSome people say, “I don't need scholars. I just read my Bible.” This statement contains a hidden fallacy. The Bible you read (unless you are reading the Greek and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    To All……………well there seems to be a splitting of the trails here, Kinda reminds me of the five wise and five foolish virgins mentioned in scriptures,  As far as Pierre and Irene goes i could say the same about them as they say about others, as far as i am concerned a bat could not be so blind as both of them seem to be. They have worked…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 30 2012,09:49)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 30 2012,11:49)To All,Genesis 3:22 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”. If Adam had ate from the tree of life God says he wou…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 30 2012,11:56)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 27 2012,01:11)T8……….It is not a Satan who is the rulers of this word it is Men in HIGH PLACES who rule this world, Your Satan is not a GOD of anything it is a Spirit of Evil working in the hearts and minds of Men who rule  this world. You attribute that to one being Satan you call a…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 7 months ago

    T8…………..Please go read the PDF File Frank Posted for me you will find it quite enlightening if you read it with an open mind at least this one and come back and let talk about it. You like Scholar opinions well yopu can get it there, perhaps there is something you have overlooked in you understand of John 1:!. Aside from the obvious fact…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2012,02:17)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 29 2012,08:39)I believe GOD must Give us a “NEW SPIRIT” that changes our hearts in order for us walk in accordance to his Laws and statues and Be his true People.And until that time, He's not really our God?  Is that it Gene?Mike……….My hope is that he is NOW your GOD, as He…[Read more]

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