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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago
Mike………..Why did Jesus say “WHEN THE “SON OF MAN” RETURNS WILL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH”, IF HE WAS NO LONGER A SON OF MAN . There is more scripture also that deal with him as son of man returning. If you want i can look them up.peace and love……………………………………………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Mike……………This is how Jesus said he would BUILD the Church, “Peter who do you say i am , you are Christ the son of the living God, Jesus responded , blessed are you Simon Bar-Jona, becasue flesh and blood did not reveal that unto you (Jesus was flesh and Blood) < But my Father who is in heaven has reveled it unto you , and i say unto you,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan was NOT the God of this age in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Pierre ……..So “WHEN” they ate of it did they die? I thought they lived for 900 years or so before they died, so they did not die “the DAY” “WHEN the ATE of IT now did they? that is in a 24 hour day, however they did die within GOD time or a Day which is 1000 years. No where in scripture does it say Adam or EVE Sinned , Post it if it is…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan was NOT the God of this age in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2012,12:35)Gene doesn't believe there is such a thing as “free will”.T8…….That is absolute Right that is exactly what i believe. There exists no such thing as a Will the is FREE. The word FREE WILL is an OXYMORON. A will would not be a “WILL” if (IT) were “FREE” of INFLUENCE> and if it is not FREE of Influence t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan was NOT the God of this age in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
T8………..Please show us where Satan LIED, He told Adam and Eve there eyes would be opened and they would be (AS) GOD, Knowing Good and evil, and GOD said “Look Man has become as we are knowing Good and Evil” So who lied there. The first lier and Murderer was CAIN, He was the one who was the first (Ha-Satan) Man. The Spirit (intellect) of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,05:58)Hi MB,Yahshua was the man who reconciled men to God God was in him.No logic necessaryNick………..thats the part they do not understand , GOD was truly (IN) Jesus They simply do not believe Jesus when he said the FATHER was (IN) HIM. GOD was (IN) Jesus via His Spirit, GOD is a SPIRIT according to Jesus.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,13:21)Hi T8, Jesus is the second Adam. Both Adams have God as their father. The original Adam then fathered the subsequent human race. Jesus is the beginning of the new creation-new body, new Spirit, renewed heart and mind. All things have become new and the perishable old is passed awayNick……….I agree with…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Georg and Shimmer …………….You know we were requires to set aside Three tithes, on of the Church , one for the feast of Tabernacles and one for the For the Widows and Orphans every third year . But what you are falling to realize is Herbert Armstrong or the “Church”. Had NO authority to require us to tithe any thing at all. Georg let me…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (toby @ Feb. 08 2012,18:02)Hi Mike,So it is true then that you cannot move past the only word you know – spiritual? I see you added the word Being in your quote – why, Mike? Quoting what another person thinks is no more proof of anything than your own thoughts. Barnes is only a man! – not a God – but he seems to be your God along with…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan was NOT the God of this age in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 08 2012,10:25)Satan does what he wants. His will is to do what he wants.T8………….So produce a Scripture that says “Satan does what he wants.” Please show us this in scripture then you may have a point of him being a GOD. Lets see this scripture T8.peace and love………………………………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago
T8………..The one twisting here is not Frank or Nick it is you preexistences who are adding to the word of God not I Nor Nick or Frank.The Logos who is God is SPIRIT and (IT) came to be (became) (IN) Jesus . This same Logos can be (IN) you me and all mankind also and that is exactly why Jesus said He was (IN) GOD and GOD was (IN) Him and he can…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 6 months ago
T8………..So you do not believe Jesus when he said the FATHER is in Me so tell us in what “WAY” was the FATHER (IN) HIM. If not by His Spirit Which Jesus said was THE WORDS He SPOKE. What you are saying is like you words are not really you either. The Logos became FLESH (IN) Christ Jesus. T8 it is just that simple brother.peace and love to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Tertullian in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Nick…………..My vineyard is leased out but it is Producing well and the Prices are really up these last few years and i just increased the lease price again. I figure he is doing so well i might as well enjoy some of the profits also, but i will drop it back if prices fall. It good to see you are back posting Brother. Hope you and all your…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 07 2012,10:06)Gene,What does your pride think about Jodi Lee coming around to the obvious truth of the matter?Mike……..another wrong assumption about Jodi Lee, God back and reread Here post to you on , 03:23, and while you are there read Marlin1 , 16:35 neither Jodi nor I nor Marlin1 . Mike Jodi Lee know full well…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan was NOT the God of this age in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Mike………..You and T8 and Pierre ,can not believe Jesus is a GOD, but you can believe Satan is a GOD, Now if that is not a twist of opinions i don't know what is. On the one hand you people argues SATAN is your GOD of this age, and on the other hand you say Jesus is not and never was a GOD, but Satan is a GOD. Talk about delusions and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
To all………It would help if we know for sure what is a “HEAVENLY” REALM, Where is it, is it in space , in the sky, in the air, in our atmosphere, or is it a Position of Thought that is higher then ours, exactly what is it and where is it. If anyone knows please fill free to inform us.Peace and love to you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (toby @ Feb. 07 2012,07:16)Hi Gene. How about you and Mikeboll agreeing to drop the word 'Being' … as you rightly say it is not there in Scriptures. Only when a deeper meaning is required should the embellishment be added.””We”” are intelligent enough to know that 'Spirit of Truth' is not a 'Being'.””We”” are intelligent enough to know t…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan was NOT the God of this age in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Feb. 07 2012,02:49)(2 Cor 4:4 KJV) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.KJ………..This also agree with 2 ths2, where Paul said that God would send to them a strong delusion in…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Do spirits have bodies? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
To All………..Again Spirits are not “BEINGS” they are what is (IN) “BEINGS” They are simply put (Cognate thoughts that produce our intellects) in our minds, The confusions about what Spirit ACTUALLY is, has caused most all of religious confusion on the earth.All “BEINGS” have BODIES made up of PHYSICAL MATTER, GOD who is SPIRIT lives…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Jesus a MAN or Morphed Being in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 6 months ago
Jodi…………Absolutely right on sis. You have present it with the exact scriptures that back up exactly what you and I have been saying all along. These people Just twist up those scriptures to meet their False teachings and Dogmas, to their own destruction. They can not understand that God made Man the way he mad him to live forever with the…[Read more]
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