To all…………Don't worry about what Mike and Pierre say that is there usual MO, they like to try to tare down what others say by those ignorant Posts they use to position themselves above others Here , however when pressed, they will often say they are done, or ignore your points, or say it Could Be because there is a HINT of this or that,…[Read more]

barely…………….Good post brother.peace and love ………………………………………gene

To All………….Here is something to think about , When John saw Jesus in Revelations and described him, did he not describe a “BODY” he had , and when Jesus Spoke to the Churches did He not say,  Hear what the Spirit is saying,to the Churches,  So Jesus exists with a “BODY”  and His words are Spirit , no different then when he was on earth He…[Read more]

Toby……….Mike says everyone see it as he does is a LIE I sure don't see it as He does, either, there exist no Such thing as a SPIRIT”BODY”, but he is Right Probably  95%  of so-called Christendom see it his way. They believe when we die we are resurrected with a SPIRIT BODY, not a “SPIRITUAL” sustained Flesh and Bone Body as Jesus had  and  p…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,11:25)Hi G, I am looking forward to the new IMPERISHABLE body of 1Cor 15 but you are not?Nick………..What do you base this statement on , where have i ever said i am not looking for a imperishable “BODY” Fact is I am looking forward For a Changed BODY, but it still will have Flesh and BONE as Jesus said his…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 29 2012,12:51)t8,Read my comment in your new thread about learning something new.  I used to believe like you, that Jesus was raised from the dead as a spirit.  But he assures his disciples in Luke 24:37 that he is NOT a spirit.I know he became a life-giving spirit, but I assume it was upon his ascension to heaven, b…[Read more]

To all…………. We need to understand what a Spirit (IS) and if we understand that then we can understand how GOD can (INDWELL) a person as he did Jesus. Then you can say like Jesus did that GOD was (IN) HIM. of a truth. Jesus said….> But if i Do , though ye believe not me, believe the works; that you may know and believe, that the Father…[Read more]

MIke and Terricca……………” And it shall come to pass afterward, that I (Yahweh) will pour out my SPIRIT upon all flesh; an d your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dreams dreams, your young men shall see visions: and also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will i pour out my Spirit.and again.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 29 2012,09:35)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 28 2012,09:45)MIke………..The question was clear, Why would a “MORTAL” or DEAD BODY need to be Quickened (brought back to LIFE) if what you say we are to Have a “SPIRIT BODY”…………….Hi Gene,The teaching in Romans 8 does not concern resurrected bodies.  Paul is talking…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Feb. 29 2012,09:23)Gene, Nick,When you read that Jesus is the Lord, do you understand that in the sense of deity or otherwise?Thanks,KathiLu………There are all kinds of Lords , but ONLY ONE LORD GOD> Jesus is not a deity but there was a deity (IN) HIM and can be (IN) you also. BY that same anointing. That God may be all and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 29 2012,10:09)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,16:47)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 29 2012,09:40)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,11:52)Hi T8,Paul compared the relationship with Christ and the church to the spiritual unity of marriage.I believe the same apples to the man Jesus and the CHRISTOS anointing.His Spirit binds to us as it…[Read more]

To All……….the key is to understand what Spirit really is, it is simply put (intellect) God is Spirit and can by virtue of being Spirit Pour himself into a person he was poured (anointed) into Jesus and therefore God was Present where Jesus went GOD was there , But that never made Jesus the GOD that was (IN) HIM. Therefore Thomas said my…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,04:02)Hi G, Jesus was not the God that was in him.Nick………..I totally agree with that and have stated that many times Brother. Jesus is not and was not the God that indwelt Him we are both in agreement on that Nick. God was (IN) Christ Jesus reconciling the World unto him and God being (IN) someone does…[Read more]

LU…………God is A Spirit his fullness was (IN) Jesus by the Christos, or Anointing of His very Self or Spirit , He being Spirit was truly (IN) Jesus guiding and directing his every Move, Jesus was not lying when he said he could do “NOTHING” from HIMSELF it was the FATHER GOD (IN) Him DOING THE WORKS, Just as He said He was. BUT none of that…[Read more]

MIke………..The question was clear, Why would a “MORTAL” or DEAD BODY need to be Quickened (brought back to LIFE) if what you say we are to Have a “SPIRIT BODY” because we Know SPIRITS don't DIE. They go back to GOD who Gave them in the First Place. So it is the “MORTAL BODY” that is Resurrected to eternal Life NOT the SPIRIT. That is what Nick…[Read more]

Kerwin and Nick……….I agree with both of what you have said, My Point was trying to show LOVE and a Marriage Covenant are not the same thing , but obviously a man should Love his wife in all respects and be Kind to her as a weaker vessel and the mother of His childern and be a true Husband to her and provide for her even as the Lord provided…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 28 2012,16:06)I also know that in the 'Shepperd of Hermas', Jesus was just a man, and the pre-existant Spirit was in him.  The doctrine over this type of 'Adoptionism' and the other has been debated since the Early Days.When John 1.1 says 'In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God'.  If w…[Read more]

T8………..Yes He did “EXIST” in the FORM of GOD while he was ON THIS EARTH, for in him dwelt the fullness of GOD Why would he not then be in the Form or IMAGE of the Living GOD , Seeing the LIVING GOD was truly (IN) HIM while he was on this earth . You are forcing Paul's word to say that he was talking about Jesus as a Preexistence before he…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 28 2012,09:44)Hi all.Just wondering, what is your view on this (How do you understand it?):Mat 19.12.”For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. He who is able to…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Feb. 27 2012,11:26)I think this argument depends very very much on how you define “BODY.”If a body is something physical, as of course definitions suggest (because they often don't include the idea of angels, for example) then of course spirits don't have bodies.We should just make a distinction between “physical body” (human) and…[Read more]