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    Mike………….I would like to know what Toby Said also , in you view does a Spirit Body have a Spirit (IN) it. if so could define that body to us. You say Spirit are bodies so can we say we have a Spirit Body (IN) our Bodies, if that were so then that would be two bodies and a Spirit also right? did the man with the legion have a thousand…[Read more]

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    T8……………Scripture say “train up a Child in the way he should Go and when he is old he will not depart”. Teaching Childern to Hate and Kill is a Great Sin and the Muslim nations do this in there own land to their own childern, and try to tell us they LOVE GOD, how sad . These Hate mongers are now being dealt with by God in there own…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Terricca…………….Just read the scriptures start with Genesis and see what GOD SPOKE it is just that simple are you so confused by false religions you can't even figure that out? Jesus even said they were not “HIS” words. I just cant believe how confused you people are here.peace and…[Read more]

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    Terriccal……… It seem you are the one who doesn't understand that one scripture not me .You have given you rendition on what they mean none of them conflict with what i “QUOTED” in Genesis, None of them say there are three parts of a Man , a Body , a Soul, a Spirit , That is your rendition of what Scripture is saying . I asked you a…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    To All….> You can not separate GOD from His words no more then you can be separated from you Words, God who is Spirit was (IN) Jesus , if you can come to Just see that it will correct much of your confusions. WE are all to be Judged by our words and God is judged and Justified by His words. If you just understood what a WORD (IS) that along…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………yes fleshly LUSTS war against the the SOUL (the complete you both Body and Spirit which equal your living SOUL> Pierre it appears you simply don't believe the scripture i posted right? So you changed the word of God to fit your Preconception of what God word said a SOUL IS> How long ago did you acquire this false teachings…[Read more]

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    Terrica…………A Soul is a COMPLETE BEING, Scripture plainly shows that a MAN as a complete bing, is a BODY + SPIRIT in that body and that is all a man Is.  You are comparing GOD with A MAN, God does not need to renew His existence MAN DOES. Those scriptures you quoted is only referencing God's complete Being his whole “SELF”. it has…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 06 2012,05:14)geneQuote Toby ……….> This is true, it is a renewed body Not a New one, Our bodies are to be spiritually renewed at the resurrection,  “that will witness the redemption of our (PHYSICAL) BODIES” that have been Spiritually renewed> if the flesh is us then you right ,but we are not the flesh it is the…[Read more]

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    Kerwin………..Glad to see your back and felling better brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………gene

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    Quote (toby @ Mar. 03 2012,08:34)So, they say (and please do not get caught out by this!) that it was a 'New' body.  Gene, it was NOT a New body – but a Re-Newed body.Toby ……….> This is true, it is a renewed body Not a New one, Our bodies are to be spiritually renewed at the resurrection, “that will witness the redemption of our…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2012,15:26)it does not matter if John is or not the writer of that book ,as you see I have not put any of my comments i have let scriptures do the talking,Terricca………O really, so you say you let scripture do your talking then please show us where the word, “Jesus” appears in John 1:1 , seeing your let the…[Read more]

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    Mike…………. 1 Ti 3:16…..> And without controversy great is the mystery of (“GODLINESS) : God was manifested (IN) the FLESH, justified in the SPIRIT, seen by Angels (messengers), preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, recieved up into glory. Mike, GOD who is the WORD was truly (IN) Jesus by the very presence of his SPIRIT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    To all………….Personification of Spirits does not mean they are literally a Person. Is Wisdom a She “PERSON”? Is Satan a HE “PERSON” ? no they are not they are Spirits which are aspects of Persons but are not the complete person themselves. Jesus said he spoke of God in a proverbial language , that means in a “FICTITIOUS ILLUSTRATION”. Take…[Read more]

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    sorry for the mix up ……..Gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 04 2012,04:40)Hi G, Still stuck on the mind? Power and control and nature are more than that.Nick………..when it comes to Just SPIRIT it is simply a type or kind of Intellect that give us a type of cognition  about something. I Do understand POWERS is “CONNECTED” with Spirits, like the power to Heal or powers over…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Mike………….Spirits are NOT PERSONS they are types and Kinds of intellects, They are (ITS). But becasue they are personified in scriptures as “BEINGS” people get confused . There is No SHE “PERSON” of WISDOM. There is NO He “PERSON” as a DEVIL, All these spirits are (ITS) They are not complete “BEINGS” but aspects of Beings> Each imparts…[Read more]

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    T8………This is a very important subject to understand , Because it brings many scriptures into proper focus and clears some of the confusion in religion. To me Spirit is ONE THING and the PHYSICAL or “BODY” is quite another. Spirits do exist and are never Bodies of any type of Kind. God made Bodies For Spirits to INDWELL and Hence the combined…[Read more]

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    Quote (toby @ Mar. 02 2012,08:57)Gene,I would tend to agree with you here.  I support your points concerning the Spirit in the physical world – the world of material matter in which all things are 'en-bodied' to one extent or another – that is: 'They are made of material matter'.I know some might then say, 'Oh, so there then could be immaterial…[Read more]

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    Toby………You stated that a Flesh body can not enter into the Spirit realm is right , but the Spirit realm can inter into a Flesh BODY. Do you see my Point . Remember when Jesus said The Kingdom of God came not with OBSERVATION, you can say Look here or LOOK there, and not (PHYSICALLY SEE) it why? becasue it is SPIRITUAL PERCEIVED , But he…[Read more]

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    T8……….Atoms contain MATTER and Yes Mater cane pas through Matter. Just like we can pas through Space easily, becasue of the separation of Material Matter. This also hold on the Atomic scale, it is just as easy for atoms having charged Particles (Matter) to pas through each other if a great enough force is applied. There is far more space in…[Read more]

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