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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Mike………What did God tell John the Baptist   and when did this happen,  at the Jordan river the Spirit descended like a dove and rested (remained) on Jesus. He then was the anointed (CHRISTOS of GOD) no before but after that happened.  Nick is right about this , Jesus was the ANOINTED ONE and He was anointed at the Jordan River, and st…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Istari , and Toby and I and Shimmer , all have a better understanding about What a Spirit is then you even begin to IMO. O and by the way who is agreeing with you on this I haven't seen anyone other then yourself, O and you Co-hart Pierre, and i even think He beginning to get a little taken back by you and your assumptions and…[Read more]

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    Mike……….YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I, IT SAY (GOD) CREATES HIS ANGELS SPIRITS. That statement is not saying that the Angels themselves are Spirits at all. but GOD makes or creates the Spirit that he places (IN) them and sends them our to minister his will. Again if you understood what Spirit is you could easily understand that and find it fits all…[Read more]

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    Mike………..No i am not, because I don't think angel ARE SPIRITS at all, but I believe Angels are Just like we are with bodies of their own and GOD makes their Spirits and put it (IN) them, just as he does all creation that has life. Scripture say God give everything a BODY JUST as HE CHOSES and there is no record of a “SPIRIT BODY” in any…[Read more]

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    Toby………See the problem , neither Terricca nor Mike have answered your questions. They simply ignore them hoping you will go away. That is their way of saying they simply can not answer them, becasue they have no scripture support for their dogmas they falsely teach. And while you say Pierre is a seeker of truth that is not true becasue he…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2012,13:18)“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.”If that is God speaking about himself through Jesus, then God was sent to do who's will?If it is Jesus speaking in the name of his Father, then Jesus is obviously referring to himself.Hence it was Jesus who came down from…[Read more]

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    BD…………But the one that Do say we are “The GREAT SATAN” are in Power in many Muslim Nations, and have been for quite sometime Now. Where abouts in our scriptures is what you seem to be quoting “as a word” of GOD. Because in my Bible it say God separated the People and there Lands he give them for there own possessions. But you make it that…[Read more]

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    Asana……………..Indeed Spirit has a form, a form of understanding , what what does that got to do with a BODY according to the definition of the word “BODY” this is Mike dilemma , he can get it straight in his head that a Spiritual Body is not the same as saying a SPIRIT BODY. he can't even get it straight that if Paul wanted to mean SPIRIT…[Read more]

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    TimothyV1………………Hi Tim long time no see, good to hear from you brother, hope all is going well with you and yours. Come and join us at the main Page TRUTH OR TRADITIONS. You alway did add a degree solidness and soundness to God word.peace and love to you and yours brother………………………………………….gene

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    Kerwin………..I am failing to get your point, yes God was the GOD of his fathers , the God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob, at hearing this Moses realized it was the TRUE GOD SPEAKING To HIM. but that has nothing to do with a person still LIVING after he or she dies . I am not really sure what your point is brother. When Lazarus was dead , and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    T8………..Have you ever thought it would be against the Law of God to Morph anything other then a Pure human being and accept his sacrifice for our sins in the first place.  Not to mention it would be deceptive on his part to do that. The law of God say that it must be a KINSMEN REDEEMER   A preexisting  morphed angel could not qualify for a [Read more]

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    t8………..Amen brother. BD i am not saying (ALL) Muslims are alike, just as all Christians are not alike, Christianity has many different Sects and denominations, and has in the past taught their childern to hate other denominations also, But the bottom line is when “religions” take hold of governments and control peoples cultures then there…[Read more]

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    BD…………The” hate mongers” are those who teach their Childern to commit suicide by blowing themselves up and killing many other innocent people with them. What i see in the Muslim world is people fighting against there own peoples and governments and hatred toward Israel and the united States and England. As far as them breaking away from…[Read more]

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    Mike………..The word Spirit has nothing to do with anything that can be see or has substance of any kind. Spirit is simply the Intellects we all Have in our bodies, if removed you would die and you as a “LIVING SOUL” must contain Spiirt (INTELLECTS) In a BODY. I could quote many scriptures that back that up and have , Like what Knows a Man but…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    T8……………..If your were to just step away form all of those twists and turns and confusions , and just ask yourself this simple question , if John was meaning Jesus in John 1:1, would he not have just written Jesus there? I am no Scholar but to me it is Just that simple no need to complicate any thing > If John want to mean Jesus he…[Read more]

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    annie……………I agree with you that God feast days are pictures of his Plan on this earth, and they are going to be kept in the Millennial reign of Jesus and the Saints on this earth according to Zackariah. peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………………………………..gene

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    To All…………Can't you all see how confused you are about what A SPIRIT (IS) , this is a fundamental Tent that need to be throughly understood, or you will have all kind of Mystery Ideologies . Like thinking Spirits (ARE) Bodies of some kind , Now we have,, a Spirit of GOD animating Our Spirit, when (ALL) Spirits are of GOD He along is the…[Read more]

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    Terricaa…………..You don't even understand not only the One i posted but as a result of not understanding that ONE Scripture you are unable to understand the other you gave. Let just deal with the one I posted (FIRST) then let talk about the others OK? You just ignore that scripture and force your own ideas into the rest of the others to fit…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2012,09:07)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 07 2012,11:49)Hi t8,The WORD did not speak for God but spoke as the servant Son.WE will come to youYou make it sound like the Word is a person that is not Jesus and doesn't always speak for God. We will come to you is different to “Not my will but your will”.And I myself can say WE are…[Read more]

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    BD……………> First of all where did i say (ALL) Muslims believe this way , I very well know not (ALL) do. that is you first error, Your second is to think that there are not those in the Muslim Faith that (DO) think that way, as has been verified by many reports and documentaries, It is a KNOW FACT that many Muslims Hate the Jews and the…[Read more]

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