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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (david @ Mar. 15 2012,16:31)Hi Terrica, yes, it was fortold that Christ would appear and be cut off.  But when did that prophecy point to?  Did it point to his birth?  Or did it point to when he was “anointed” hence officially becoming the anointed one (Christ)?Dan 9:24-27 pinpoints when “messiah” would appear (and also be cut off, in de…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Mike…………That statement was not said three times it was said once and quoted three times in each Gospel. You over exaggeration of those words changes nothing. Johns Baptism was one thing Jesus Baptism is quite another, Both are baptisms, John Know that and that is why he said those words. He understood Jesus was the Messiah or anointed…[Read more]

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    Mike………..We do not want to drink your tainted Water, not now or ever, that would be suicide for anyone that understand the truth about this subject. And i don't think many others are drinking it either. Mike face it you have absolutely no idea what a Spirit (IS) , on the one hand you believe it is a “BODY” but not in ONE PLACE in…[Read more]

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    Quote (toby @ Mar. 14 2012,14:34)Moreover, Scriptures states that the Body of Jesus – not the Spirit – was transformed when it was Raised Up. – It is the (Spiritless) Body that is put in the grave- It is the (Bodiless) Spirit that returns to God- It is the (Body with the Spirit in it) Soul that is raised upspiritual body.Toby ……….This is…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 14 2012,11:40)The ENTIRE BEING of Jesus, SPIRITUAL BODY and all, was transformed into a seed or whatever inside of Mary's womb.  There, God prepared an earthly body in which the ENTIRE BEING of Jesus dwelled while on earth.  Then, upon his ascension to heaven, the ENTIRE BEING of Jesus, FLESH BODY and all, was t…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Mike and Terricca……………..Nick is right Jesus was a MAN Just as we are in the “EXACT” Same physical berth as a Human beings whose existence came through Mankind a Man who was “anointed at the Jordan river and then sent out into the world to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. NO “MYSTERY RELIGIOUS” Morphing process needed, God was…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 13 2012,05:03)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 13 2012,10:34)Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2012,14:45)GeneI thank for you respond it is intelligently presented I understand it perfectly ,so I will respond in a similar way;Quote Terricca…………..I am “JUST” a “LITTLE” Lower the a ANGEL, becasue my body can die, their “BODY”…[Read more]

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    Mike………..What did Jesus do with his “SPIRIT BODY” when he was “MORPHED” here on earth was it still floating around in Space waiting for him to come back to it ? Seeing he was on earth with a Physical body and was resurrected with one what ever became of the Spirit Body you say he became. Was he Morphed back from a Physical to His…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2012,14:45)GeneI thank for you respond it is intelligently presented I understand it perfectly ,so I will respond in a similar way;Quote Terricca…………..I am “JUST” a “LITTLE” Lower the a ANGEL, becasue my body can die, their “BODY” Can't. Notice the word “LITTLE LOWER”.I am familiar with the expression about…[Read more]

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    Kerwin………..Even if you use the dictionary you chose and get the meaning the abode of the DEAD, from it, DEAD is DEAD, DEAD is NOT LIVING. Go and look at a Dead Man is he still living, NO, why becasue he (IS) DEAD, Does he talk, walk. think, No he does not. I have posted many scriptures that speak of the state of the DEAD an None of them…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 12 2012,04:31)Toby………What Mike is trying to Do is change the topic, its not about Angels it is about “Do SPIRITS HAVE BODIES”He thinks if he can divide us on another issue then he win his Point,  don't fall for it , the issue on this post is clear and we Both are agreement on it.  If he wants to discus Angels he n…[Read more]

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    Toby………What Mike is trying to Do is change the topic, its not about Angels it is about “Do SPIRITS HAVE BODIES”He thinks if he can divide us on another issue then he win his Point,  don't fall for it , the issue on this post is clear and we Both are agreement on it.  If he wants to discus Angels he need to start a Post on them.  Lets keep hi…[Read more]

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    Kerwin………….You can not take a Parable as a Literal thing , it is given to illustrate a Principle it is an allegorical picture of judgments . And that analogy is not a analogy about the dead still living when they die. The example is about how some have a easy life with riches and do not suffer in this life as others suffer, but they in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 11 2012,11:41)Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 11 2012,17:31)Pierre,Quote KERWINmany people believe in ghosts but are those real  many believe in ufo and believe in little green man,could ghost mean reflection of a dream not a reality  just like a wish full desire ??I know that it is currently a skeptical age but those who follow J…[Read more]

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    Charity………..Good to hear you again, been a long time Sis, hope all is well with you and yours, have you heard from Kejon lately and how is he doing?  I do agree with what you posted there it is true as long as Christianity goes along with its Catholic and Protestant view the same confusions will exist. Peace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 10 2012,23:19)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 10 2012,06:12)There is no tricks to it, WE Just believe what Scripture and God Spiirt CLEARLY SHOWS US.Good.  Then believe the scriptures I posted above, Gene.  And for crying out loud, believe your own Lord when he tells you that he came down from heaven to do the will of his G…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Mike…….Simeon was shown by the Spirit of God that Jesus was the “Prophesied Messiah” (the anointed one promised to COME into existence) by all the Prophets of old and Simon knew all those Prophecy's and was looking for his coming as all Jew were. He was granted to see him by God before he died, none of that takes away from what i posted about…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 5 months ago

    Terricca…………There is no tricks to it, WE Just believe what Scripture and God Spiirt CLEARLY SHOWS US. If anyone is playing trick with God Words it is YOU and your Co-hart Mike who “thinks” scriptures say or “hints” this or that. Pierre you produce no proof at all and when pressed to produce it you dart of or change subject matter, or…[Read more]

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    Kerwin……………Once a man dies his two components, a Body and a Spirit split the Spirit goes back to God who gave it in the first place and the body goes to the grave (Sheol) and corrupts back to dust or ashes. as it is said dust to dust and ashes to ashes, there is no more a SOUL in existence you are simply gone for ever and unless you…[Read more]

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    BD……….But I can't speak for all people nor can you, I know this is my country i was born and raised in and i have my Culture that is distinct from others , My great grand parents come here in 1650, Just fifty years after the original James town colony they were neighbors with George Washington and lived in Westmoreland Colony Virgina and…[Read more]

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