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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 4 months ago

    Charity ………..Good to see you back .peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………gene

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 10 2012,09:56)Gene,Is 9:6 says Jesus will be called a mighty god.  John 1:1, 1:14, 1:18, and 20:28 are all fulfillments of this prophecy.  But let me move on by having you compare these two scriptures:Job 1:6One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.Psalm 82:1God s…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2012,13:39)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 08 2012,20:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2012,04:56)Do you see all the gods mentioned in Pierre's post, Gene?  Who are all those gods?Gene, just answer this one question:How could Jehovah foretell that Jesus was to be called mighty god if there ARE no other gods except for…[Read more]

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    Pierre …………There is NO other GOD the the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD PERIOD. YOU FALSE gods are fakes and an no gods or GODS at all. Mo matter what you and Mike say I have posted what GOD the ONLY GOD SAID. and that is good enough for me and some here. You and Mike can believe there are thousands of GODS or gods if you want to but as far as i…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 09 2012,10:21)Hi T, So you say.Nick………..Don't worry about Terricca, he was an accuser of the brethren from the very start here. He likes people to think he knows what in fact he does not even begin to understand. He tries to intimidate people by the accusing Spirit working in him.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 09 2012,04:56)Do you see all the gods mentioned in Pierre's post, Gene?  Who are all those gods?Gene, just answer this one question:How could Jehovah foretell that Jesus was to be called mighty god if there ARE no other gods except for Jehovah?Mike…..They are “FALSE” GODS meaning NO God's at all.These FALSE GODS are…[Read more]

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    To ALL……….So tell us where and who is theLIER…………..Mike or GOD ?Isa 43:10 …> Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD< and my servant whom I have Chosen: that you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am he; “BEFORE” me there was “NO” God formed, neither shall there be, “AFTER” me.Isa 44:6……..> Thus saith the LORD the KING…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Jesus was in a Body that had the same sinful desires and was tempted as we are, but overcame it by the Power of God, If Jesus did not have the exact same nature as we do he could not have qualified to be a sacrifice to GOD for us , He had to be “EXACTLY” the SAME in EVERY WAY, and He was tempted in every way as we are, but he…[Read more]

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    Mike……….They are “FALSE” GODS becasue there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD, Saying they are GODS is a LIE.I have shown you where GOD himself said that He looked for another GOD and Said there were NONE. Your False Gods do not exist as true GODS of any kind. When are you going to start to believe what Jesus and GOD the Father said? All true…[Read more]

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    ED j………..My point was that the PREFECTS (RE) and (PRE) both can show a Past state of existence. For instance if i say I re-connected the plug that implies it already per-existed plugged in before. What you are saying is the a SOUL DOES NOT (INCLUDE a BODY) Like a SPIRIT outside of a BODY as a BEING would be, but both are false conclusions…[Read more]

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    To All…………Jesus said………..> thou art the “ONLY” True GOD”  What part of “ONLY” don't  Some here understand” and again as for God there are many (SO CALLED)  Gods but unto us there is “ONLY” ONE GOD.  God himself said He looked for another GOD and said He found NONE> How clear can it get and yet there are some here who can not und…[Read more]

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    LU…………I really don't celebrate the Passover, I keep it, it grieves my Soul to think that my Sins and Iniquities, were so terrible that it had to require the death of another in order for me to be FORGIVEN . I find no celebration in that but deep sorrow and remorse. It is a grave reality to me of what it took for Jesus to pay that price for…[Read more]

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    Mike………..That is right flesh and blood can not (INHERIT) anything except the DNA it revived from it Parents. the King dome if GOD is not Flesh and Blood it is Spiritual Perceived and Flesh and Blood can not Perceive anything what soever. It is Just a Vessel we live IN, it is US that Live in these Bodies that are the One who Inherit the…[Read more]

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    ED j……..Doesn't “REINCARNATION” mean RE-INCARNATED, doesn't the perfects RE mean “AGAIN”? So would that not imply a Preexistence State? , seems pretty clear to me brother.peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene

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    To All………..It was that same BODY Jesus was raised up with that ascended into the clouds, and it will be that same “BODY” that he will descend with, and it will be our resurected “BODIES” that will ascend into the clouds to meet the Lord  in the air, all Physical BODIES with Spirits in them and we will all be “LIVING SOULS”, Just as we…[Read more]

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    Mike………..Your problem of not knowing what a Spirits (IS) is what is tripping you up. Spirits are not “BODIES” of any kind not now or ever will be.  Spirits form our minds by what they impart to our thinking and in this way influence our behaviors. “either make the tree good, and it's fruit good; or else make the tree  corrupt and its f…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ April 04 2012,05:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 03 2012,19:04)To All……….Again there is no such ting as a “SPIRIT BODY” Spirits are what is (IN) BODIES of all Kinds. Spirits can only find REST (IN) BODIES. Consider this,  Spirits is like a Large Lakes of Water and if one takes and Pours some of the water into a Cup or Vessel…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 05 2012,09:54)I hope you are ALL getting my point here.  For years, the Trinitarians have been “supporting” their comically flawed, man-made doctrine with words such as “You must have spiritual eyes to see it”, or “God must reveal it to you”, or “The Spirit taught this to me”..Mike………If you don't have the Spirit of…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 04 2012,13:59)Neither of these mean that the Father was physically living inside the flesh body of Jesus.  Nor do they mean that humans could literally see what the Father looks like be seeing Him inside of Jesus.Mike…….So when Jesus said this thou are the “ONLY” true GOD What p[art of ONLY you can't understand? And…[Read more]

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    Georg……….Good Post brother. Makes sense! peace and love to you and Irene………………………………………………gene

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