Kerwin……….I could ask you the same question why cant you understand that Jesus was the First to be resurected from the Grave from all of mankind to recieve the promised eternal life? To those who the word “ALL” (sometimes) is all inclusive and in other times does not meaning all inclusive of subject matter is changing Scriptures. You are…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 26 2012,06:31)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 25 2012,20:29)To all………..No one has risen from the Grave to eternal Life yet but Jesus, all who have died are waiting a “RESURRECTION” from the GRAVE. The book of Hebrews plainly shows this , Heb 11:3……….And these  ALL , having obtained a good report through faith, recieve…[Read more]

Nick………..When have i said Satan and Demons don't Exist ? you not reading what i said exactly right. I said they do not exist as “SENTINEL BEINGS, or PERSON, but they do exist as SPIRITS that is described by their names. Example the Word Satan is an adversarial Spirit or (INTELLECT) yes and even displayed this spirit and Jesus called Peter a…[Read more]

To all………..No one has risen from the Grave to eternal Life yet but Jesus, all who have died are waiting a “RESURRECTION” from the GRAVE. The book of Hebrews plainly shows this , Heb 11:3……….And these ALL , having obtained a good report through faith, recieved “NOT” the promise; 40, God having provided some better thing for us, that…[Read more]

Martian……………When you leave it is a great loss to me and others  here, please reconsider brother. Or Perhaps go to Shimmers Site “ChristianForm2” peace and love to you and your……………………………………………..gene

Quote (shem4name @ April 25 2012,10:36)The premiss of this OP was not the preexistence. It was the fruit of doctrine. If you want to believe that Christ preexisted that's fine with me. As long as you agree that the man that was born and walked on this Earth did so without any advantage in power, knowledge or source of God then we have. If you do…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2012,19:14)Hi GB, You are running out of wriggle room against the scriptures.Nick……….Still waiting for a scripture that explains what SPIRIT (IS) Just one will do , I have produced What Jesus said and that leaves no “WIGGLE ROOM” . Jesus Said the WORD He TOLD us (ARE) spirit and LIFE, if you believe different…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 25 2012,06:54)Hi GB,you say”To All…………Spirits can not DIE , Bodies DIE. No Spirit can ever DIE (IT) can only return where it was before in an ARID STATE or find a BODY to INHABIT> Just that Simple . If people understood what SPIRITS ARE they could easily understand this.” You describe here the behaviours of EVIL…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 24 2012,13:28)Hi KW,I agree all who are of the Spirit are alive to God.The Spirit does not leave or forsake us even in death.The ghost comment was to stimulate discussion -who knows about them?To All…………Spirits can not DIE , Bodies DIE. No Spirit can ever DIE (IT) can only return where it was before in an ARID…[Read more]

T8………I have quoted the scripture and you try to bend it to fit you convictions. It says Jesus was the First “OF” that word “OF” means FROM as you well know, so trying to change focus to something else is not what we are talking about here .  If you “TRULY apply this scripture as it is written it will bring down you house of cards brother…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ April 23 2012,03:34)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 23 2012,03:09)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,02:42)Gene,Some who were alive when Jesus was on the earth did not taste death at all.  (Mark 9:1)Nike………Another twist of scripture another half sentence posted to make a doctrine. Had you finished the sentence it would have said…[Read more]

Kerwin………..Here is a reasonable conclusion .Psa 104:29……> Thou hidest they face, they are troubled: thou takest away their Breath, they die and return to dust Ecc 9:5 …..> For the living know that they shall die: but the dead Know not anything, neither have any more a reward: for the memory of them is forgotten perished Neither…[Read more]

Martian………You have spoken it right, we are to grow unto the “FULL” Stature and Measure of Christ Jesus If we are not advancing toward the Goal which is the Goal God has given us all, then we are missing that “mark of the hight calling”, which was in Christ Jesus our Lord.peace and love to you and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,02:42)Gene,Some who were alive when Jesus was on the earth did not taste death at all.  (Mark 9:1)Mike………Another twist of scripture another half sentence posted to make a doctrine. Had you finished the sentence it would have said  UNTIL THEY SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD COMING WITH GLORY AND POWER as i recall. T…[Read more]

Kerwin………….This might help…….>Acts 2:28..> Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both “DEAD” and “BURIED” and his SEPULCHER is with us unto this day. Now Kerwin if anyone would have been resurrected it would have been David the Apple of GOD eye Right?. But no he was and is still…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 22 2012,18:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 21 2012,20:06)Kerwin………..Cant you see how you are adding another perspective to what i said and have not dealt with what i have wrote brother. Jesus could not have been the first raised from the dead to eternal life if others were already. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…[Read more]

Quote (shem4name @ April 22 2012,08:23)The plan of God for man is clear. We are to grow and develop the character of God in us. For this reason Christ was given as our example. In this we truth lays our hope. Hope is the greatest of fruits. Without hope we have no motivation to move forward into the plan of God.Show me a God that overcomes…[Read more]

Shem4name………….If you are Martian don't leave stay and don't let people here get to you brother , use the truth of God as a sword given to you and the soundness of scriptures you have to enlighten us all Brother. These people are like little childern who stand in the market place and say we have piped unto you and your did not dance , we…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2012,06:21)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 22 2012,01:43)Nick……….That is truem it is indeed the mental light from the Spirit, that Peter was comparing to the Day Star that rises and gives light to the earth, the Spirits of GOD  rising in our Hearts enlightening our minds. peace and love to you and…[Read more]

Nick……….That is true it is indeed the mental light from the Spirit, that Peter was comparing to the Day Star that rises and gives light to the earth, the Spirits of GOD  rising in our Hearts enlightening our minds. peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………….gene