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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Mike………The Logos was GOD and came to be (IN) the Flesh Man Jesus. “know you not that the FATHER is (IN) Me” and again, “the son of man can to “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF, THE FATHER WHO IS “IN” ME “HE” DOES THE WORKS”. Mike you simply have not come to see that God the Father was “TRULY” (IN) Jesus and speaking to us all through him. When are you…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2012,13:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,18:05)Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2012,15:00)so I may not understand all things but I can not see why those two men would be in heaven before the dead of Christ ,their SOUL yes but living with a new heavenly body NO,Pierre,Jesus was the first to be raised FROM THE DEAD.  Enoch…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,10:57)It seems to me that Kerwin and Nick are believers in the old excuse, “The Devil made me do it!”.  Many people like this mentality because then they aren't really responsible for their own decisions and actions.  They use the devil as a scapegoat for when THEY THEMSELVES make a bad choice.I am not of this m…[Read more]

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    Nick………No my ideas are not Nick, it's just your lack of understanding what he was saying as well as those of His day also not understanding what he was saying , nothing has changes , but Knowledge Has increased and a Better understand is available today I believe. You say you understand what Jesus was saying but you seem to lack Knowledge of…[Read more]

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    NICK………….Words (ARE) SPIRIT induced, Words come from Spirits working are (IN) a person, Spirits are not PERSONS they are (ITS) go and look up the word used for HE in your quoted scripture and you will find it can equally mean and (IT) . When a Spirit is cast out of a person (IT) goes about in arid Places looking for rest, so no Spirit…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2012,15:44)Hi GB, When Jesus met the demoniac in the cemetary who conversed with Jesus?Nick……Spirit (ARE) What LIFE (IS) and those demonic Spirits “ARE” LIFE they give their (COGNATE) influences of their (TYPE) and KIND to ALL who have them Just as any SPIRIT does, of GOD, GOOD, EVIL, CLEAN, UNCLEAN they are (ALL)…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2012,11:22)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 04 2012,12:02)Hi KW, It is only known that he was taken up and not his ultimate destination because there are three heavensIt doesn't matter WHICH heaven, Nick.  The question of the thread is “Do men EVER go to HEAVEN?”  The scriptural answer is “YES”, because Elijah was taken up to h…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    To All…………..God overshadowed Mary and created DNA in her EGG that he wanted so Jesus would look exactly as he described him through Issiah the Prophet, and the fetus grow in Mary for Nine months and then she brought fourth a man Child who was prophesied to be born FROM MANKIND , Jesus came into “EXISTENCE at the time of his berth on this…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,08:29)Hi GB, Where is this INTELLECT in scripture so we can learn of it?Nick……..LET this “MIND” Be (IN) YOU that was (IN) Christ Jesus our Lord. Now tell us Nick what is a MIND is it  not our (INTELLECT) we posses. When it speaks of the enlightenment by spirit what do you think it is referring to. When it…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,06:17)Hi GB, So you agreed Jesus even conversed with demons in people yet now when he addresses one you back off?Nick……….the person PETER had the DEMON by reason of the Spirit working (IN) his MIND. That is not saying there was someone else there with Peter , but Peter HIMSELF was doing what HE DID> He was…[Read more]

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    To All………….Where it says God is not the God of the Dead. Think about it! a dead person has no God becasue he is “DEAD” God can only be a God of a living person, not a DEAD ONE. Jesus was not meaning Abraham was still alive when he made that statement.  Abraham died and is dead and awaits the first resurrection of the dead. There has…[Read more]

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    To All…………After Elijah was taken up into the SHY by a whirlwind He wrote a Letter to Jehoram this all took place after the whirlwind indecent it is in 2 Ch 21:12….>”And there came a writing to Him (Jehoram) from ELIJAH the Prophet, saying Thus saith the LORD God of David” …………………> .While Elijah was taken up in the Sky He…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 03 2012,06:20)Hi GB, The word soul exists so commonly in scripture your bible must be quite thin, especially with satan removed as well.Nick………Yes it does and it alway means the complete being not just a Part of a “BEING” . Nick Who is saying there is not SATAN , I am not saying that , I am saying Satan is Not a…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2012,12:16)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,15:54)Hi GB, No Jesus spoke to the demon in Peter.I don't believe Peter had a demon.  I believe Jesus was making a point that whoever would stand in the way of God's will was working with Satan, and not God – even if their intentions were good.I think it was sort of like if…[Read more]

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    Nck……….Jesus addressed it to PETER not some unseen elusive SATAN Being that you “suppose” was there. Satan is not a Being SATAN is the SPIRIT (intellect) of and ADVERSARY.  Peter was committing an “INIQUITY” (a sin that seems good)  He did not comprehend the things of GOD at that time and thought he was dong good even though he was not, t…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Frank…………Good Post and Nick is in agreement with it brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours Frank………………………………………………………….gene

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    Kerwin………..When we all Die we are “NOT” either, Just like ENOCH was when he DIED, He was NOT also. That means he no longer EXISTED as a “LIVING SOUL” any longer. and will not until he is resurected at the first resurrection that is to take place in the future as scripture says. The false belief that a Person consists of a body+ Spirit + a…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2012,09:45)Quote (kerwin @ April 30 2012,21:24)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 01 2012,08:39)Hi MB, Which heaven is specified?Nick,Acts 1King James Version (KJV)11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Moses Body 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 02 2012,15:40)Hi KW, But that which is visible is not the abode of the invisible God.Nick……….Right one brother.peace and love…………………………………………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Moses Body 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2012,09:56)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,20:52)Hi MB, Which of the three heavens? Can you prove it was God's abode?What difference does it make, Nick?  If the question is “Do men ever go to heaven?”, then the answer is still “YES” – no matter WHICH of the three heavens they go to.And in the case of the souls under…[Read more]

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