Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 18 2012,04:47)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 16 2012,09:55)mikeUzzah,was not of the tribe of Levi and so he knew he could not touch the ark,Pierre and Gene,The point of my three examples was not to divert the subject into explanations of those three examples.They were just three things off the top of my head that I used to show…[Read more]

To All……….Consider this a Day with God is a thousand years and a thousand year is a day ,  no one lived over that thousand year day in God's time period. so in that sense all who sin die in the Day they sin. A day with God is not a 24 hr period but a thousand year period. Also Kerwin you are right about if a man never sinned he would not…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 13 2012,19:05)Hi , CHRIST did exist before birth. Christos is the anointing. Jesus did not though.Nick…………Right on brother. When are they ever going to come to see that, so we can all come to a unity of The True Faith ?Peace and love to you and your Nick…………………………………gene

To all………God was in .Jesus he in dwelt him, just as Jesus said over and over, but that in no way made the man Jesus a God or god or angel of a preexistent. origin . No morE then it would make you or I prexistent , while the “spirit” or the Christo's was preexistent while the man Jesus who that Spirit was in was not prexistent .…[Read more]

ED J……No i am not suggesting that , i am saying it plainly say he was a “MAN”. It is clearly written there brother. No scripture say Satan is a MAN now does it? I am not also suggesting the Man was a Cherub. Lock closely at what God said He (the Prince of Tyer ) set his heart as these things, no where does it say he was those things think…[Read more]

Mike……….Lets just consider one of you explanations now. You  have said “you could not see the advantage of God not making us immortal from the beginning”, He did, as Kerwin said, But God let man be the cause of his own death by sinning, but not without “purpose”. But let consider something else also, you like music as i recall Right? So let…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 14 2012,15:10)Brother Rich,I am in agreement with you about God is the Word.  It has always  been God, (The Father over us), (The Son in us), (The Holy Ghost in us).  God revealing Himself to us, a step at a time.The seeds you spoke of go even father,  Each of us is born with a seed hidden down in us, Either Gods seed or sat…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 15 2012,07:16)Still Gene, your opposite conclusions are obvious when you read those scriptures.Remember that we don't have your filters, so we are reading it as it is written.It seems to me that you need to add a paragraph to each of these verses in order to arrive at your conclusion.Hence why you always take a paragraph when…[Read more]

ED j……..Ezk 28 : 1-17…..> Is not a “Proverb” and it Plainly say He was a MAN, go up to chapter 2 where it say he was a man and the word Lucifer is not even mentioned there at all. Ed j your forcing the text brother. The other text where it say Lucifer, is being used as a “Proverb” which is a FICTITIOUS ILLUSTRATION and cannot be taken…[Read more]

Terricca……….Look i am not trying to be funny with you i wish you could better understan our language better becasue i think you would better understand what i was saying that is all i meant to say , sorry if i offended you brother.peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………….gene

ED J……..Brother the word Licifuer is not Satan as you assume it is. Do this one thing for me OK, God to where God Told Ezekiel to take this proverb to the King of Babolyn. Please notice that he said this proverb Now go and look up what a Proverb is and you woill find it means a fictious illustration a proverb can n ot be taken literially…[Read more]

T8……….Yes you may, the word (OF) means from , And indeed Jesus is the firstborn even the word born should tell you it was a born person being talked about there. Jesus is the Firstborn from all creation to make it into the kingdom of God. T8 your forcing to text to say what in fact it is not saying Brother, and i never said Jesus was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 14 2012,13:03)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 13 2012,08:33)……..he still has his roots from mankind the same as I.Yes, he is a son of man according to his flesh.  But he also had glory alongside his God before the world was created through him.  You didn't.He came down from heaven to do the will of his Father.  You di…[Read more]

Mike………Rather Jesus is the first from mankind and i am the last, makes no difference , he still has his roots from mankind the same as I. The word only is wrong, unless you apply it to the fact he is (present tense) the only begotten “into” the kingdom of God from mankind. Scripture shows there are many who have been begotten of God in fact…[Read more]

David………Jesus plainly say a Spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see “I” have. That alone should tell you Jesus was not a Spirit “being of any kind”. Not to mention where Paul said ” if the spirit of him that raised Christ Jesus from the GRAVE be in You “IT” shall “ALSO” quicken (bring to life) Your MORTAL BODIES now please tell me…[Read more]

To all………..The word in John 1:1………….Is GOD'S WORDS, it was with GOD and WAS GOD, Just as Your word are YOU, no difference. If John was wanting to mean Jesus there he would just written Jesus there. Just that simple nothing complicated about it, common sense should tell us all that. God is Spirit and His words are Spirit they are ONE…[Read more]

Quote (Marlin1 @ Nov. 12 2012,07:21)The true revelation is there is only ONE GOD, NOT two as you suppose. A BIG GOD and a little god, that is paganism and makes GOD a lier.That is the same as three persons (GODS) in one. PAGANISMJehovah of the old Testament  is Jesus of the NEW.It is the same God all the time, 1st over a people, 2nd with a…[Read more]

Terricca…………I don't have the time to give you a lesson in the English Language. It is obvious to anyone that what i wrote is correct anyone that can understand our language anyway. IMOpeace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………….gene

Terricca………..Again you do what you do best here, Lie and Accuse people who disagree with you , that seems to be all you are able to offer here to people who disagree with your view. Why is it that most all Preexistences and Trinitarians always resort to that kind of mentality. You seem to be the leader of the pack here, Much like the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 11 2012,09:02)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 11 2012,04:39)If you considered “ALL” Scripture written about Jesus it would help bring you out of your darkness on the subject of Jesus' “PREEXISTENCE”. IMOActually Gene, there are quite a number of scriptures that if read without filters, indicate that Jesus was with the Father before…[Read more]