Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 17 2013,13:36)Quote (2besee @ June 16 2013,19:54)Mike, READ THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS. It is common knowledge.I have no time for such things, 2B.  It is you and Gene who make claims that the Gnostics didn't believe Jesus was a flesh human being.  You should be able to show some proof of that claim.  I'm not saying you're wr…[Read more]

Abe…….Check out the word “through” you will find is should be rendered because of him or for him. Jesus is GOD the fathers finished workman ship for all mankind and every thing physically created was for mankind that is why it says, all things are under the foot of man and because he said all thing are under the foot of man there is nothing…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 14 2013,13:35)Quote (t8 @ June 13 2013,05:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,14:59)Read:diabolos Definition: 1) prone to slander, slanderous, accusing falsely  1a) a calumniator, false accuser, slanderer,2) metaphorically applied to a man who, by opposing the cause of God, may be said to act the part of the devil or to…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 27 2012,08:42)“For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the ETERNAL SPIRIT offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?” Hebrews…[Read more]

Quote (abe @ June 15 2013,05:36)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 14 2013,06:12)To all……….There are Seven Distinct Spirits of ONE GOD, that is where the uniplural comes in , IMO, the problem is i believe, not knowing what a spirit really is. Each of those Seven Spirits represent a particular attribute or aspect of Our LORD (YAHWEH) who is our God.…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Nov. 27 2012,08:29)All, it is the spirit which is eternal Jesus is a man.Not another God. A man.There is only one God YHVH.Jesus did not exist until the first advent.The eternal spirit is the eternal spirit and it is this eternal spirit which continues to exist in times eternally past, in the man Jesus, and in any believers if they…[Read more]

Terricca………..If scripture says 'no other “TRUE” GOD then it is obvious all others are “FALSE” GOD'S  simple logoic should tell you that. if there is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD< then all other are FALSE GOD'S how simple even a child should be able to figure that out. IMO I am done descussing this with you Pierre. We can make no head way if we…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ June 14 2013,15:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 14 2013,06:03)Quote (kerwin @ June 11 2013,20:47)That is where my question comes from as you seem to be saying that Jesus did not come in the flesh.What?   I believe Jesus was existing in the form of God, having much glory alongside his God before the universe was created through him,…[Read more]

To all……….There are Seven Distinct Spirits of ONE GOD, that is where the uniplural comes in , IMO, the problem is i believe, not knowing what a spirit really is. Each of those Seven Spirits represent a particular attribute or aspect of Our LORD (YAHWEH) who is our God. These seven Spirits given Council to HIM , therefore it says GOD, our…[Read more]

2besee…….. looking forward for more of your and Abe's commits and others also. This is a good subject, I have a belief that the word and God are the same thing, because a word is what proceeds from spirits working which expresses there intellects , to me spirits can combine in a being , but spirits by themselves are not beings , they are…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ June 13 2013,22:11)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,14:59)Read:diabolos Definition: 1) prone to slander, slanderous, accusing falsely  1a) a calumniator, false accuser, slanderer,2) metaphorically applied to a man who, by opposing the cause of God, may be said to act the part of the devil or to side with himIs that not the point…[Read more]

Mike ……like I have said before Trinitarians and Preexistences are both in the same boat. They both believe in other Gods, they both believe in the Preexistence of Jesus , and you confirming what Carmel is saying only proves my point. you both try desperately to separate Jesus from our EXACT identity with him. IMOPeace and love…………………gene

Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,13:37)Please address this part, Kerwin:While it is true that certain things have been revealed to men via God's Spirit many times in scripture, this does not support your claim that ALL the things Jesus knew about God were revealed to him via God's Spirit.  In fact, there isn't a scripture that says ANYTHING AT…[Read more]

Terricca………It is God himself that said he looked for other Gods and found none, so why do you go against God's words and he said he created everything by himself and you say it was through Jesus he created it all, and Jesus said there were NO OTHER TRUE GOD'S so if there are no other “TRUE” God's then common sense tells you all others are…[Read more]

Abe and 2besee……….Continue with this you are both binging out a lot of Truth here, i am following both of you guys with grate intrest , I believe the Seven Spirit of God are the seven (DESTINCT INTELLECTS) that our LORD, YEHWEH, uses as his eyes giving him perception and council to Judge all things, also which he uses through out all…[Read more]

To all………The HOLY (set aside) Spirit was not given to man in the begining it was poured out in a general sense after the Day of Pentocost on those God has Chosen to recieve it, through Christ Jesus. Not all have it, but those who do, reconize the Truth when they Hear it, becasue that Spirit giving us, gives us (cognate intellect) to percieve…[Read more]

Terricca………Don't know about the country you live in, but the US only has ONE President not many and to say a country has many President is not saying they are GOD”S now is it? Talk about confused , you trying to make carnel reasoning fit Jesus and God's words. Look My God Said he looked for other GODs and Found NONE and if His words are…[Read more]

Mike………You mean clear Scripture like John 1:1 where you trinitarians and Preexistence transform the Word “WORD” to mean another GOD “Jesus”. Give us a break, it is you people who hunt for anything you can to interpret scriptures to fit you Dogmas not us. But maybe this will help you, The Spriit of His Son that goes into our hearts causing us…[Read more]

Terricca……..The God of Gods is not saying there are other “TRUE” Gods, it is saying OUR God is the God of those “FALSE GOD”S”  ,  So what is a “TRUE” God, it is a DIVINE DEITY . There are no other  divine deities but ONE>  Because it says Satan is the God of this world is saying not that Satan is a true God, but people of this world serve his…[Read more]

Terricca………Your getting close , so why not simply say there is “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD and all others are false Gods, and we will be in accord with one another. Your basically saying the any way. If you believe that there are any other true God's out there tell who they are. Remember i have alway said anything can be made into a “SO-CALLED”…[Read more]