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    EDJ…….The original symbol for God was not the Greek symbols you are using, the original Hebrew symbol was this,  The head of an OX with a STAFF next to it NOT A CROSS, that is a prevision brought on by the Greek translators, the symbol of the cross is of pagan origins, it has nothing to do with God or is in any related to him. Your mixing…[Read more]

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    To All………God is Alpha and Omega, because he “IS” the beginning and the end of all life, no life exists outside of him. Jesus is said to be the First and the Last, meaning he is the First to inherit eternal from mankind and is just like the last to inherit it also. IMOpeace and love to you all………………………..gene

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    Quote (2besee @ June 27 2013,20:43)Abe, I believe that the word in John  1:1 was God's spoken word and spirit, the one God, not another God/god. Jesus being the image of God I believe is because Jesus was the second Adam, perfect though, because He never sinned. Therefore the image of God.What do you think?I need to go back and catch up on some…[Read more]

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    Mike……..Seems you have a problem, God said, “he did not subject the world to come unto angels “, So your Jesus is an Angels thing, means Jesus is not part of the Kingdom of God to come right? And if Jesus is an angel according to you then he is no God either. Seems you have a dilemma, You many God then means all men a little God right, because…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,05:39)Quote (terraricca @ June 21 2013,21:57)yes abe does that most of the time ,and also ask you to explain some verses and then disappeared in the fogg ,this is most frustratinghe try i guess to show something that he is the only one to understand ,this leaves the door wide open for more frustration  :DYes…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 26 2013,09:34)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,07:06)All your qustion have been answered over and over and over by not only me but, everyone else here ,Really Gene?Here is the last (of MANY) questions that have gone unanswered by you:In Psalm 8:5, David says that Jehovah made mankind a little lower than “the gods”.…[Read more]

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    Abe……..I had that book of the “Hebrew Mechanical translation of Genesis”, it is written by Jeff Benner, I sent it to brother Adam years ago. It is very good at showing the difference of words used by the Hebrew language and the English wording , like Jodi brought out , the word we use for create the Hebrews “fattening” like filling or…[Read more]

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    EDJ……..I agree with that, Gods seed is spiritual and his seed is in the man who was the physical seed of Abraham, Jesus. Peace and love to you and yours………………………gener

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    Abe………Yes i would say the “CHRISTOS” is in all who have it. Question is what is the Christos is it a the Man Jesus or the anointing Spirit that was in Him? Jesus like us had his own spirit he was born with, but that spirit is not the Christos or anointing Spirit of God, Which he later recieved, when he was baptized in the Jordan river by…[Read more]

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    Mike and Terriccca………All your qustion have been answered over and over and over by not only me but, everyone else here , it's not our fault you can't comprehend them. Is it becasue you two have a mental block or what? your both sow indoctrinated into you doctrine of confusion as ARe all Preexistences and Trinitarian are. Saying i say the…[Read more]

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    EdJ………..Good scriptures, to think about , the spirit is like a link that links us to God, remember when Jesus said , the comforter was with you ( it was in Jesus) so as Jesus was with them so was the Spirit of God also , and it is that same spirit Jesus sent to be in all true believers, that is what he meant by saying I in you and you in me…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 25 2013,13:33)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 25 2013,08:28)Mike………The difference between me and you is, when I hear the truth I know it, and acknowledge it, you and your co-hart Pierre on the other hand, have no idea of it, and can only disagree and stumble along, trying to make scripture say what it obviously, does not…[Read more]

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    Jodi……..Check out the DISCUSSION thread , would like your input there also.Peace and love to you and yours………………………gene

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    Mike………The difference between me and you is, when I hear the truth I know it, and acknowledge it, you and your co-hart Pierre on the other hand, have no idea of it, and can only disagree and stumble along, trying to make scripture say what it obviously, does not say. As far as riding on Jodie's coat tail, she is only repeating what I have…[Read more]

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    Abe…… The Holy Spirit is the seed of God IMO, this Spirit was “IN” the man Jesus the seed of Abraham. The wording, the spirit of Christ, or CHRISTOS is the (anointing spirit ) ,it can be confusing, because some believe that is referencing, Jesus the man, when in fact i believe it is talking about the Holy Spirit Jesus had in him. Paul…[Read more]

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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 25 2013,05:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,04:36)Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 21 2013,23:55)Hebrews 5:7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications…..To all those who believe Jesus is STILL a human being in heaven:  What does the writer of Hebrews mean by “in the days of his…[Read more]

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    Edj…………. Pierre and Mike don't have any idea what thy are even saying IMO, and how they both continue to contradict themselves . They change scriptures to meet there Preexistence dogmas and are nothing more then mini Trinitarians , they have to make Jesus a God or they have nothing to support their false teachings of Jesus being the…[Read more]

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    EDJ……..What about Spiritual means a SPIRIT “BODY”  .             The “big” God, “little” God thing.              Or you can't take the word of God Empathetically another words God does not mean what              he is saying except only when they say he does.              As i have said before, they are nothing more then mini Trinitarians…[Read more]

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    Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 22 2013,18:21)I want to talk about Hebrews 5:7 who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear, What does “in the days of his flesh” mean? I think I might understand it different…[Read more]

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    Mike……That is why i said Triniatrians are more right then you preexistence are , becasue they at least acknowledge there is but one True God, and you people make all kinds of God's . Anything can be a God to a person even idols of stone and wood, but are they true God's ? , no they are not, you not only deny God's word , but Jesus' words and…[Read more]

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