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    To all……This is how I understand this teaching, I believe what Jesus meant was not so much that a word “is” itself spirit and life, because a word is simply “intelligent utterance” another words a sound carring intelligence through the air or can be written, Another words, words are carriers  coming from Spirit intellects, and spirits ARE…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years ago

    Mike…….The most high God is YEHWEH and there are NO lesser GODS, a GOD is a GOD Period, I don't think you are following me. Let me try to explain again. “ANYTHING” can be a God “to a person”, as long as it meets, TWO  criteria's , ONE it must be recond to have “power” over the person worshiping it,  and TWO is it must be trusted in with c…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………. Thank you for your input, would like to hear from others also.Peace and love………………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years ago

    Mike…….Another thing the word LORD, is not the same Word used for Lord in scripture, Adonai, is misinterpreted it should be rendered as YAHWEH OUR GOD , while adoni is lord,  as in a  human magistrates  or judges, or someone in authority, big difference in the words , it's not a little lord and a big LORD as unfortunately translated in sc…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years ago

    Mike…… Hear O Israel, the LORD our GOD is “ONE” LORD and again Jesus said this, ELOHIM , or GOD is a SPIRIT, are your other so-called Gods Spirits. Mike , I tried to explain to you over and over, the term God is relative to a individual person, the term is subjective to the persons thinking, so that is why The only true God could say he is a…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years ago

    T8….. Why should I be silent if I don't understand it I doubt others do either. So lets clear it up NOW, do you or don't you preach Jesus is a “true” God who existed as a God before his berth on this earth , Yes or No , do you or don't you preach That Jesus is the Word of GOD who was a God, spoken of in John 1:1. Please try to be specific to the…[Read more]

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    Mike…….The word there i believe is “HARDER”, not Hard. another words Jesus was comparing the task while not impossibe, but very diffucult, Agin all this was to show us, it takes God to help accomplish the task. Jesus did not say it was impossible to happen, but responed, “after” Peter said, then who can inter, (seening the man kept all of Gods…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years ago

    Abe and 2besee………….Right oin brothers. Jesus himself was never the word of God, he simply relayed God's Words to us as God who is Spirit was abiding “IN” him was directing Him to do, as Jesus said over and over. No mans Words are apart from Himself, unless he is quoting someone. God and his word are one and the same thing, it makes no…[Read more]

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    Mike………My point was that According to the Arameric translations, the word used there is Rope and that would really relate more to the possibility of an attempt, and fit better to the example Jesus was making and be more logical, a rope can be a very tiny one, so the effort could be made, as the rich man tried to enter but was unable becasue…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years ago

    T8….. Where did you get Mike and you believes in only one God, that is not what you preach, you believe Jesus is a God also. Lets be honest here for a change you guys believe in many Gods and preach it. The only difference is you believe in “little” gods , you preach them as true Gods, even though Jesus said in prayer THOU ART THE “ONLY”…[Read more]

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    Seekingtruth………As Kerwin said it is a Mute point, because Faith was the Point Jesus was driving at. Here is another one years ago that gave me some problem, it was where Jesus was talking about the unjust Judge , the king James said “Though” God terry long with them, as if God would put you off when answering a prayer for help. The word…[Read more]

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    EDJ and Kerwin…….Take the word Camel for instance, Jesus said it is harder for a Camel to pass the the eye of a needle that for a rich man to go into the kingdom mof God. The word there for Camel is in Aramic translated as ROPE, now which would make more sense Rope or Camel? , obvisiouly it would be Rope, anothers words Jesus was saying to…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 22 2013,12:35)Gene?  4th post on the previous page?Look, I don't really care if you address the post or not.  I just get irritated when you butt into a discussion I'm having, but then fail to stand and defend the things you said.So I'm asking you to either defend your claims, or don't make them in the first place.Mike, I c…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ July 20 2013,09:14)Hi Gene,When Jesus said that there was none good but God I believe that by that statement he was showing us who the true God was. That is humility, and even if WE tried our hardest we should always remember that it is God alone who is truly good. So, it was not that Jesus was saying that he himself was not good…[Read more]

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    T8……..Satan is not a person “it”is a spirit, that dwells in the children of disobedience. Personifying a spirit does not make a true person. Those who serve that spirit are considered to be his children, just as those who serve God the Fathers Spirit are considered to be children of God. Problem is people do not know what a spirit is, it is…[Read more]

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    To All………..Wisdom, is not a person , “IT” is an ATRIBUTE of a person, it is SPIRIT. AS Abe said it is ONE of the SEVEN SPIRITS of GOD. “IT” is considered the CHIEF of all SPIRITS, “IT” gives us discernment ,  to judge outcome before it even happens. Therefore THE LORD , Through “IT”, knows the end from the beginning.Spirits are not persons…[Read more]

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    Abe…..Good post also, I believe we all can learn from your and 2besee's posts.Peace and love to you and yours……………………gene

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    Quote (2besee @ July 18 2013,22:05)Abe,This is in the bible that I'm reading at the moment, it's the Jerusalem Bible which has deuterocanical books in it.Here is one part where wisdom and the spirit seem to be one:The book of Wisdom.The Jerusalem Bible.Chapter 1.4 Wisdom will never enter the soul of a wrong-doer, nor dwell in a body enslaved to…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 22 2011,11:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 22 2011,05:49)Terricca……….Why lie,  you do not accept this, that Jesus “is (THE) (a definite article), SON of MAN”. You believe he was a morphed angel it seem you cant make up you mind what Jesus was right?  Pierre a Definite article in English means that is exactly what J…[Read more]

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    Pierre………So you neglect the Scripture i quoted again to push you false teachings. Jesus said he would send the comforter who would never Leave us and would bring to mind all he has said to us. You profess God, but deny the Power thereof, thinking he has no power over a persons life. This is all brought about by your so-called “FREEWILL”…[Read more]

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