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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Wakwup………..That sounds right to me except the saved who Paul was talking about are the Saints and they have a different judgement then the rest that die withiout Christ , they come up in the second resurection and will be Judged by ‘God Almighty by their works they have done in the flesh, but the saints come under the jufgement seat of…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Wakeup…………A true Christian has passed from death to life, Jesus told us, so our issue of eternal death judgement has alredy been solved brother, now this type of judgment remains for christians.

    let me explain, i might use a little parphasing  here to drive the point home.

    (Paul was takling about true  christians) when he said this, eve…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Terricca……….What question?

     

    Peace and and love to you and yours………………….. gene

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    Wakeup……..Check out the Word LORD used there and you will find it is ADONIA,  ( YAHWEH ) the  ALL mighty GOD Not Lord ADONI, a human ruler or magistrate  Jesus is called in scripture Adoni, NOT ADONIA,

    need proof , …… The LORD (ADONIA) said unto my Lord (Adoni) set on my right hand until I ( ADONIA) make your enemies your foot stoo…[Read more]

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    T8…….Jesus  is said to be the SECOND Adam , Seeing some say, He Created Adam. Did he create himself, as another ADAM also?,  If ALL things were created BY him and For him , then that would also have to include the second Adam also, after all,  ALL means ALL, right? I am not saying you believe that , because I don’t think you do, but some he se…[Read more]

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    T8…… If you say while we may reach the fullness of Christ and the say CHRIST reached the fullness of God , you are incorrect, there is no scripture that I recall that say’s christ Jesus reached the fullness of God. While God did dwell IN HIM, that in no way is saying the he (Jesus) ever reached to the FULLNESS of GOD. In fact Jesus himself…[Read more]

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    T8…….Mike is wrong also about the word something ,  conveying the same as the word someone,  something coveys an object causing and action, while someone conveys a person,  (something) can mean anything,  while  (someone) is specific to a person.

    Another  point here is about the word image, if God created us in his image , them we EXIST in hi…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Wakeup……. Your getting Spirits mixed up with LIVING SOULS ! I think?

     

    peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Terricca……….. Please post a single scripture that says the 144000 are BROTHERS of JESUS. That was our issue Here, and also please post where it say they are ALL Jews, you adding a lot of what is not said IMO.

    Also the word redeemed applies to all who are saved  from the lest to the greatest , and please read what T8 posted he is right on…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Terricca…….. These hundred and forty four thousand are from the twelve tribes of Israel,  they do not represent all the saved from the earth, only a fraction of them. There are twelve thousand from each tribe of Israel. As revelation plainly says,  but in no way does it say they are the ONLY ONES saved FROM MANKIND.

    You should be more w…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Terricca……….if we are not his brothers and sisters, then why does it say,  He is the firstborn of MANY brothers , and agin in this way we should pray, OUR FATHER, which is in HEAVEN,  and again he says to us, I AM GOING  TO MY FATHER “AND” YOUR FATHER, MY GOD  and YOUR GOD.

    God also said ALL SOULS ARE MINE,  are you not a living Soul?  [Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Kerwin……You are right, God the Father plainly told us  Be you HOLY  because I am HOLY, Be you PERFECT , because I am PERFECT.  The LORD our GOD  would not have told us that if it were not possible, just as it says  WITH GOD, “All things” ARE POSSIBLE.

    Just as it is written, UNTIL we “all” come unto the MEASURE and FULL  STATURE of CHRIST.  [Read more]

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    T8…….John 1:4…… In him was LIFE, and “THAT LIFE” was the “LIGHT of  “ALL” Mankind. 

    God himself is The LIGHT of ALL MANKIND, he HIMSELF is the LIFE that is ENLIGHTENING ( gives cognate awareness to us all) . Not Jesus but God the Father Himself  is what LIFE “IS”  He is our VERY LIFE ITSELF.  Without GOD presence in us we would have NO LI…[Read more]

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    To all……..A word is simply  “INTELLIGENT  UTTERANCE” , and comes from spirits, The LORD our GOD used His SPIRIT INTELLECTS and POWER, to created all things that exist, and he said , he did it alone.  He clearly said to the nation of ISRAEL this.

    Isa44:24…..> <b>Thus says THE LORD your redeemer  and he that FORMED YOU FROM THE WOMB, I am the…[Read more]

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    T8………Jesus is the only begotten son ( from the  physical creation of God ) he is the FIRST-BORN from all physical creation into the KINGDOM OF GOD.  He is the first OF MANY BROTHERS BORN INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.  Your logic is right about Jesus not being the Word of GOD,  Jesus is exactly as we are he is and always was a SON OF MAN, he is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Colter………I do not believe a new spirit is born, I believe  a different kind or type of spirit is added to the person and changes a persons life to whatever that type or kind of spirit (intellect) is producing “IN” him. Rather a clean or unclean spirit it will be reflected in that person or LIVING SOULS life.

     

    peace and love to you and…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Kerwin………All spirit is “OF”  or FROM God,  and scripture says when a man dies the spirit goes back to God who gave it. The verse you quoted also say s that God is the source of all spirits of all flesh.  While the spirit “IN” man  can cause him to act a certain way, it still has it’s origin from God, no spirit comes from a man it is sim…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 12 years ago

    Kerwin………If the spirit OF God is IN you it is not OF or FROM you,  Do you see my point brother,  Of denotes ORIGN, while IN denotes encasement as what’s inside  and does not necessarily  denote origin,  OF  more specifically means FROM It’s  source. IMO

    peace and and love to you and yours………………………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    T8…….I bother to, because of the spirit working in me, and if it is the spirit of truth, then it compels me to respond in accordance with it, it has nothing to do with a WILL that is FREE, but a spirit that drives my thoughts.  Again I am not saying we do not have LIBERTY to EXPRESS our CAPTIVATED WILLS, because we do have the liberty to do…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    T8……..saying “if” or who so ever will,  in no way means that a  will are FREE,  it can just as Easley can mean, if you are despised  to do this or that thing.  To say  it is indicating a Will that is FREE is just an assumption .  IMO

    When  the spies went from Israel to spy out the land they were to invade, all of them said they could not con…[Read more]

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