`lCarmel……where did you get the idea I think God is not in controll of his creation, I never said that, thats what “freewiller’s” believe not me. I believe God is in complete controll of all his creation and always will be.

Peace and love to you and yours……………gene

Carmel……where did you get the idea I think God is not in controll of his creation, I never said that what “freewiller’s” believe no me. I believe God is in complete controll of all his creation and always will be.

Peace and love to you and yours……………gene

Terricca…….So you believe these people were all products of “rightious” people right?

Rom 3:9-12…….> What then are we better then they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are “ALL” under sin.10, There is none that understands, there is none that seeks after God. 12, They are all gone out of the…[Read more]

Kerwin……bottom line is that our own so-called wills there are supposed to be free don’t exist. Because no, not one will is altogether free. Again as I have said over and over here I am not talking about God allowing us to exercise our “Captivated” will, but the actual wills themselves. Common sense tell us that if a will was truly free, it…[Read more]

Kerwin……bottom line is that our own so-called wills there are supposed to be free don’t exist. Because no, not one will is altogether free. Again as I have said over and over here I am not talking about God allowing us to exercise our “Captivated” will, but the actual wills themselves. Common sense tell us that if a will was truly free, it…[Read more]

Kerwin……bottom line is that our own so-called wills there are supposed to be free don’t exist. Because no, not one will is altogether free. Again as I have said over and over here I am not talking about God allowing us to exercise our “Captivated” will, but the actual wills themselves. Common sense tell us that if a will was truly free, it…[Read more]

Hi
We are told the sabbath is a “sign” between God and his people. So what is the great sign mentioned there, what spritual significants is being implied?

If we look at it from a physical stand point, it says “six days you shall work and the seventh day you shall rest, ceasing from all “your” works. GOD was establishing a spritual principal,…[Read more]

Hi
We are told the sabbath is a “sign” between God and his people. So what is the great sign mentioned there, what spritual significants is being implied?

If we look at it from a physical stand point, it says “six days you shall work and the seventh day you shall rest, ceasing from all “your” works. GOD was establishing a spritual principal,…[Read more]

Hi
We are told the sabbath is a “sign” between God and his people. So what is the great sign mentioned there, what spritual significants is being implied?

If we look at it from a physical stand point, it says “six days you shall work and the seventh day you shall rest, ceasing from all “your” works. GOD was establishing a spritual principal,…[Read more]

Terricca……If what you believe is the case, then there could be no predestined people , JOHN THE BAPIST, Jesus, King Cyrus, Jeremiah the propet, Moses, Isaac, and on and on it goes, it’s all crap shoot, and all up to us, God is not truly in controll of his creation. When he said Jacob have I loved and Esaw have I hated, even before they…[Read more]

T8…..The way it is written it does imply it is “impossible” to go to Jesus without the Father causing it to happen. Your words are not in alignment with those scriptures but you are making a case for your false assumptions of a person by his “own” so-called “freewill” efforts can do it on his own and as a result can take credit for his own…[Read more]

T8…..The way it is written it does imply it is “impossible” to go to Jesus without the Father causing it to happen. Your words are not in alignment with those scriptures but you are making a case for your false assumptions of a person by his “own” so-called “freewill” efforts can do it on his own and as a result can take credit for his own…[Read more]

Nick……..but your fabrications are?

peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

Kerwin…….remember what Paul said beother, 20th 3:2……”and that we may be delivered from “UNREASONABLE” and wicked men: for all men have not the faith.”

Kerwin it is not wrong to use your God given mind guided by his spirit to reason with us and others brother. Remember what it says ” I saw the Lord decending from mount Paron with ten…[Read more]

Nick……….All trinitarians  would naturally disagree with him, because it takes down much of what the believe in. It also supports much of what we believe in  and shows that the original teachings of the church was an adoptionist  view point was we believe also. He shows how that view over time was shifted to what it is today. How sc…[Read more]

Terricca……. Pierre , then what does this mean to you brother,  “NO” man “CAN”, COME UNTO ME” except the Father  “Draw” him.”.

Kerwin is right I believe on this one Pierre. IMO

peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

Nick…….So he who condemns another condemns himself also,  seeing he does the same things. Right?

kerwin believes we should keep the commandments of God, so did Jesus also.  He did not say by works of law (forced compliance) but he meant by the operation of the Spirit of God in us. IMO

The word of God is indeed a lamp unto our feet, but one n…[Read more]

Nick……it not wisdom of men you are referring to, it’s the WISDOM of the WORLD.  I think you may have changed that brother.

Better put….. The wisdom  “FROM” the world , or the wisdom “FROM” God.

Wisdom is Wisdom , no matter where it  comes from,  it just depends on  where it was  derived .  From above or from below.  It just where y…[Read more]

Nick……..Have you read any of his material? An agnostic is not an atheist  by no means nick,  Ehrman  has stated he believes in Jesus, just not the Jesus that modern orthodox christologsy has put forth, and you and I and others here don’t  either. So why would you not think other orthodox scholars  would not  counter him just as the do here…[Read more]

Nick……So God spirit produces  unreasonable and up logical  thoughts cording to you right”

“For you have not received the  spirit of fear, but of love and power, and of a SOUND mind. “.  God also plainly told Israel come let’s reason together,  Paul and all the deciles reasoned with people as well as did Jesus,  were the also  void of the sp…[Read more]