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GeneBalthrop started the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
What did the Apostle John mean by that statement. Notice he did not say they denied Jesus, but they denied “christ”.
What say you?
peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
GeneBalthrop started the topic John said, whosoever denies christ came in the flesh is antichrist in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
What say you?
peace and love to you and yours. …………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Nick…..Your last post to Kerwin is apsolutely right. The “rock”, was the power of GOD TO GET INTO THE MIND OF PETER AND REAVEAL THE TRUTH ABOUT CHRIST JESUS TO HIM, AND THAT IS THE “ROCK” THAT JESUS WOULD USE TO BUILD THE CHURCH WITH.
IT IS AMAZING MANY CAN’T UNDERSTAND THAT SIMPLE TRUTH.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca……Makes no difference because God can speak through anyone he chooses to. But whoever he speaks through , that person who he speakes “his” words through is not the originator of those words himself, but is speaking those words that are not his, as Jesus plainly said, “the words i am speaking to you are “not” my words but the words of…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 7 months ago
AndrewAD. …..No clain by JOHN makes Jesus more then a human being ,who GOD THE FATHER worked through. JUST AS HE DID THROUGH MOSES. MOSES told us that God WOULD RAISE UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THE ISRAELITES JUST LIKE HIM, he did not say God would raise up a God from among the ISRAELITES NOW DID HE? JESUS is compaired to other prophets that God…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 7 months ago
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AndrewAD. …..No clain by JOHN makes Jesus more then a human being ,who GOD THE FATHER worked through. JUST AS HE DID THROUGH MOSES. MOSES told us that God WOULD RAISE UP A PROPHET FROM AMONG THE ISRAELITES JUST LIKE HIM, he did not say God would raise up a God from among the ISRAELITES NOW DID HE? JESUS is compaired to other prophets that…[Read more]GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 7 months ago
Whosoever that believes in me, greater works then these shall he do, because i go to him who sent me. Why would Jesus say that if it were not true? I wonder how many truly believe that? How many have made Jesus different then they are and moved their idenity with him as someone different then a human being just as they are, and as a result do not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca…..The word christ means “christos”, which means the anointed of God, JESUS HIMSELF IS NOT THE ANOINTING THAT WAS ON HIM. That anointing was on Moses and the Seventy elders AND VARIOUS LEADERS of Israel in the wilderness also as well as the prophets to and kings like king SAUL AND DAVID, . That is why scripture says “GOD SPOKE” to us in…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 7 months ago
AndrewAD. …….let let JESUS TELL YOI, “why callest “me good” , there is “only” ONE THAT IS GOOD, AND THAT IS GOD”.
THERE YOU HAVE IT AndrewAD, question is do you believe JESUS OR NOT?
IF WE LIVE THE WAY JESUS DID AND SPEAK THE SAME WORDS AND DO THE SAME Things we have also become the way, and the truth, and the life. Why do you continually…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca……i don’t have a problem with what you are saying about God putting block or rock there. What i am focusing on is a specifict scripture were were talking about, that it is the power of God the Father that is the ROCK THAT JESUS WILL USE TO BUILDTHE CHURCH BROTHER.
peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca…….If Jesus was not a son of man then why did he say he was over and over about 80 times? Produce one scripture thatshows any activity of JESUS BEFORE HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH. Tell us why did not Gabriel not know who he was if he had preexisted, instead he said, that holy thing in you “would” be called the son of God. HE DID NOT SAY…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum GeneBalthrop 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca…….If Jesus was not a son of man then why did he say he was over and over about 80 times? Produce one scripture thatshows any activity of JESUS BEFORE HIS BERTH ON THIS EARTH. Tell us why did not Gabriel not know who he was if he had preexisted, instead he said, that holy thing in you “would” be called the son of God. HE DID NOT SAY…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Terricca……Yes God the Father layed a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense (JESUS), GOD DID , it was not Jesus who layed it, So they would stumble over it, But that does not change what JESUS was talking about in the scripture we were discussing now does it? Jesus was not referring to himself or PETER IN THAT SCRIPTURE, BUT TO GOD THE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum JOHN 1:1 who is the WORD? 9 years, 7 months ago
AndrewAD. …Wrong. if you quote the word of God those words would be true ,butyou certenly are not a God now are you?.
Jesus said “Clearly” , “the words i am telling you are “NOT MY WORDS”,BUT THE WORDS OFHIM WHO SENT ME. Jesus also said “why call me good there is only “ONE” that is good and that is GOD. IF he were a God then he would have not…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
T8…..please show us any scripture that says goats are stubborn. The only stubborn animal i know of is a ass, or donky. God said that all the male firstborn of men or aninals wete his and they could be redemmed if the people chose to,but the firstborn of an ass,if they chose not to redeem it they were to break it’s neck, GOD did not want it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
Kerwin…..Tell me where did i ever said the word ROCK “ALWAYS” MEANS GOD . What i said was the scripture where Jesus spoke about the ROCK that he would use to build the church on ,that scripture was talking about the power of God to get into the mind of a person and reaveal who JESUS was. That was the Rock he would use to build the chruch.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 7 months ago
T8…..You are wrong, the ROCK is GOD the Father who reveals to people he has chosen who Jesus is, in their minds so they can perceive him. The ROCK was God the FATHER, Words are not rocks nor can they cause the awareness of “truth” to be in a persons mind, words are only expressions of what lies in our minds, if you had understood what Jesus w…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
To all…..God and his words are one, just as we and our words are one and the same. Jesus was never GOD’S WORD, GOD the Father simply spoke “THROUGH” HIM TO US. Neither was any prophet or angel the word of GOD, God also spoke “THROUGH THEM” to us, and others. God is a SPIRIT and can speak through anyone or any thing he choses to. Even “first…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
T8….AS i have said it simply is amazing how you can ignore what JESUS SAID TO PETER, ” blesed are you Simon Bar-jonna , because flesh and blood did not “reaveal that unto you, but my Father who is in heave, has “reavealed” it unto you”, how can you honestly say you have read that and not understood what JESUS was talking about in reguards to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
T8…..IT’S SIMPLY AMAZING ME HOW YOU CAN READ WHAT JESUS SAID TO PETER, and not get it. DID NOT JESUS SAY to him that it was not flesh and blood that reavealed who JESUS WAS TO HIM? It was GOD THE FATHER WHO DID, BECAUSE EVEN JESUS WAS FLESH AND BLOOD, so it was not even Jesus who reavealed who Jesus was to Peter, why can’t you see what JESUS…[Read more]
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