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    Mike….all those pictures are of the earth at different times and years, haven’t you noticed the coludes are different as well as where the land masses are. Why would anyone think they are not actual photos of the earth. But that only a tip of the iceberg of tons of evidence produced by astronauts, ISS, MOVIES , PICTURES millions of them. You…[Read more]

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    T8….Jael is right, if you don’t see Jesus as a man who came into his existence at his berth on this earth, a man who came from the loins of king David, just as scripture says, and as Jael said, a second Adam, who also was a man, you simply do not see the real JESUS. Go read what JODI WROTE she clearly showed who and what Jesus was and is. Please…[Read more]

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    Andrew….your religion dose not say “shall be” because you believe he already existed as a son of God before his berth on this earth if you are a trinitarian as LU is. Your trying to play a shell game with words as if the part proceeding those scriptures weren’t even in scripture, what you brought out in no way cancels the proceeding scriptures.…[Read more]

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    Nick….I don’t think Jesus visited anyone when he was in the grave 3 days and 3 nights, or he could not claimed to be dead, right? To me a dead person is not a live person. Now the anointing spirit of God could do that, but Jesus sure didn’t do that because if you believe him he was “DEAD”.

    YOU seem so intrenched in the pagan neither world…[Read more]

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    Nick…i never said anything was lost, thats your misunderstanding again, scriptures say the is no activity in the grave. When a man dies he is indeed dead, and will remain that way until he is resurected, and his mind will be restored back to him. Because every hair is numbered, don’t you think so are our throught and memories to. “It is…[Read more]

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    T8….Amen to that brother. All smoke and mirrors, designed to throw people off. Did you notice when i ask Mike if he had a ride on the ISS, around the earth, if he would then believe the earth was Round or lose his faith in God?, he never answered. I wanted to see how far down this road of deception he had gone. Evidently quite far, to where he…[Read more]

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    TC…The spirit of CHRIST, is not the man Jesus’ spirit he was born with, it is the Christo’s or (anointing spirit) of God, the spirit of Christ Jesus is referencing the the anointing spirit of God. If that spirit is in us, we, the same as Jesus, are in GOD the Father and God the Father is in us also, just as he is in Jesus, same spirit of God…[Read more]

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    Nick…. I may have said the spirit in man came from God, because scripture says if God were to wihdraw his spirit and breath, all flesh would “parish” together.

    Job 34:14-15…If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath; 15..(ALL) flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.

    But i never…[Read more]

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    Nick….There is no human spirit, there is Spirit God put in man m and it certainly does animate the mind, it gives us our intellects we have, just as it gives animales their intelligent they have. All life is of the spirit, that life giving intellect is even in our blood, or how would our genetic codes even work without spirit causing them to…[Read more]

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    TC…This is the way i translate the meaning of what 1 PETER 1:11,…”searching what, or what manner of time the spirit of (the anointing ) which was “in” them did signify, when “it” testified beforehand the suffering of the (anointed) Jesus, and the glory that should follow.

    The word Christ can be referencing JESUS, BUT CAN ALSO MEAN ANYONE…[Read more]

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    Nick, your adding your own ideas , to what is written, when the soul, the body with the breath of life in it, dies it is finishhed for ever, there is nothing alive in it, and spirit goes back to God, who gives it to all created souls that exist , (bodies with,the breath of life in them), same with all the physical creation, animals or mankind,…[Read more]

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    T8….We are saying Jesus is the christ (an anointed human being) but you say he was already the christ (anointed one) before his existence on this earth. If he was already ANOINTED at berth then why another baptizm later by John the baptist at the Jordan river?, that is when the spirit of God decended on him as a dove, none of that happened…[Read more]

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    TC…..I completely agree with your post, Jesus had his own spirit AND SOUL”BODY”, just as we do, and we combined with the spirit of God and became one in spirit. This is exactly what happens to us when we recieve the Holy Spirit, from God the Father. Then we also become sons of the living God as Jesus is. It is one spirit of God, that is to be…[Read more]

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    Nick..the soul “is” the living body. What part of Genesis 2:7, you are unable to understand. Forcing text to meet you speculations doesn’t work. Jesus was raised with his soul body and went up into the heavens with it. His body did not experience corruption ever, because he never sinned.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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    Mike…The question was if you were given a ride on the ISS, and saw that the world was truly round, would you believe it? Would that proof cause you to become a atheist?

    Your interputations of the creation event, is just yours but many others don’t see it that way at all. But the creation event was not what i was asking you about.

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    LU….There you go Jodi has laid it out clearly. Hope you and others here are giving this a serious consideration.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 1 month ago

    T8….if JESUS WAS BORN ANOINTED, THEN WHY DID HE GET ANOINTED AGAIN, AND WHY WAS HE NOT DOING MIRCLES BEFOR HIS ANOINTING AT THE Jordan river. You teachings that he was already anointed at berth is wrong T8. You don’t seem to understand what or why an anointing is required and who it pertains to.

    Tell us are angels anointed beings, or any other…[Read more]

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    TC…I agree with you, the concept of a spirit, soul, body, is a trinitarian concept.

    A soul is, according to Gen 2:7… a body made from the dust of the earth with the breath of life in him, and that is what constitutes a “Living Soul”. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Many have added a lot to that, especially trinitarians and those who preach a…[Read more]

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    T8….As far as the word “before” goes, what makes you think that means “existed as a being”, of some kind, you have no proof thats what Jesus was referring to. The jews of that day believed their connection with Abraham was their greatest tie to GOD, JESUS WAS JUST TELLING THEM HE WAS BEFORE ABRAHAM “IN IMPORTANCE”.

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    T8…who is the we you speak of, it’s only you, and some trinitarians who post here that believe that.

    TC…what i believe is that a living soul is simply a flesh body that has the breath of life in it, that at least is what Gen 2:6 says. I also believe there is a spirit in man.

    Job 32:8…there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the…[Read more]

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