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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Edj….That guy has every thing mixed up. The seventy week prophecy of DANIEL “only” deals with the destruction of JERUSALEM and TEMPLE, the despursment of the Jew’s, and the birth of the Messiah JESUS. It had nothing to do with the end times when Jesus reappears on the earth again.
It has nothing to do with the Antichrist, nor the “Man of Sin”…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…the new body, is a physical body made up of flesh and bones “exactly” as the body Jesus was resurected with. AND YES THE SEED REPRODUCES AN EXACT BODY IT CAME FROM. A seed is a reproducer of the “exact” same body it came from. Rather wheat, corn, ect. And the seed of man reproduces a man, GOD GAVE EACH A SEED OF IT’S OWN, AND THAT INCLUDES…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…ALL SEED PRODUCES IT’S OWN KIND. show us where that is not true anywhere in scriptures.
While you keep giving us your personal renditions, no scriptures. While scripture does say flesh and blood can not “inherit”, the kingdom of God, it cant even see it, “for the kingdom of God comes without observation, it is within you, but is that the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…I see you are unable to answer scriptural questions given you , by Anthony , JODI, AND ME, YOU SIMPLY IGNOR SCRIPTURES AND PUSH YOUR OWN IDEAS, calling them “spritual” insite.
My question to you is how is what you are saying “spritual” when it goes against so many scriptures. I think you push what you want, even if scripture shows…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…ANTHONY AS WELL AS Jodi and I have all told you the truth, but your pride or simply lack of the spirit, will not let you admit it, and if you cannot see the truth in these things shown you, it’s because you simply are not of the truth. You prance around like, we are the ones who do not see ‘spiritual’ truths, but in fact, you are the one…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony, your post is perfect brother, you and Jodi make a good team, i also believe that way too.
I have for years tried here to get Nick and others, to understand this, may God help him and others to understand what you and Jodi have written. GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER.It is apsolutely crucial we attain to the resurection of the dead, before any…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The soul in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…your form of “mystery religion” is false, Jesus truly did die, and wen’t no where till he was recurected back to life. Lazarus died and is still dead waiting the resurection, Just as the richman , you completely misunderstand the “parable” of Lazarus and the rich man. GO FIND ON THE INTERNET A H MARTIN, and read his explanation about it ,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick….Have you ever explained to us how spirits themselves are “bodies” of anykind. And why would spirits need to be resurected seening spirits don’t die. Tell us how that works in your mind, enlighten us brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick….You ask when this mortal becomes immortal, what happens to this mortal? It, the mortal, changes to immortal . Where do you see the mortal is done away with, or “it” the same it, changes to a spirit being at? Those are your additions not found in scripture, your simply forcing the text to say what it does not spicifically say., Just as you…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Nick…Jodi’s right brother, Jesus is not a spirit being, he still is a “human being”, with a flesh and bone body, the exact same one he was raised with, it never saw decay, he never sinned. That body is spiritually sustained and will live forever, just as Adam and Eve could have, had they not sinned and eaten of the tree of life that was in the…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi….GOOD question sis, yes where is the “BODY” that was promised not to see DECAY. IF Jesus turned to a spirit as many assume, then where is that body that was promised not to see DECAY?
TELL US Nick and TC AND ANY OTHERS that believe we turn to spirits without a body, when we are resurected?
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony. …good post brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 11 months ago
T8…O REALLY, then why did he recieve the holy spirit later at the Jordan, it decended down on him as a dove and abided on him. Tell us why did he no mircales till after that happened, and why was he sent after he recieved the spirit i to the wilderness to be tempted and “then” sent out into the world to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 11 months ago
Edj…The very work “Christ”, means to be anointed. So when was Jesus “anointed” before his birth? Was that some how “secretly” done before he was even born? Why was he baptized for, why did the spirit decend as a dove and remain on him then if he were already anointed with it, why did he do no mircales untill after he was anointed, why was he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Repentance is a gift of God in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 7 years, 11 months ago
T8….Scripture please, it’s not about your human opinions, i maintain repentence is a gift of God, if it is true repentence, worldly sorrows works death, just as it says. Are we to assume you know better then scriptures? Nothing silly about that to me T8.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Anthony, TC has not produced one scripture that say, when a saint dies after pentocost they are immediately resurected, not one scripture says that. That is just a false assumption on his part, our spirits go back to him who gave it, our bodies go to the grave where they return to dust. That is exactly what God said, and i don’t believe he lies…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
TC…You are adding contexts to scriptures that are not actually said or implyed. You said Adam was not given a body that couldn’t die in time, implying God intended his body to die, but GOD said had he eaten of the tree of life he would never have died. Just as he was, so he prevented him from eating from it. Why would God do that if he could…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Jodi, you nailed it sis, and Anthony also. I see it that way also. Hope TC comes around too.
Peace and love to you and Anthony and yours…….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 11 months ago
TheWW….Yes Jesus did not exist forever nor before his birth on this earth, HE came from the loins of king David, just as he said Rev 22:6 “I am the root and offspring of David” AND again Paul said Acts 2:29-30, Jesus came from the loins of king David.
God the Father became his “spiritual” father when he recieved his spirit at the Jordan…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 11 months ago
TC….Spirit to me is what life ITSELF is, it dwells in bodies that God made, all kinds of them, including us. WHEN spirit is combined with a body, then a soul exists, Just as genesis says. When that spirit i taken away from that body that soul dies forever. But a new soul can be regenerated at a later date, by taking the DNA of the old body, and…[Read more]
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