T8……JESUS was not talking about atheists,  he was talking about people who are preaching him.

Jesus said,  “For “many” shall come in my name saying  that “I AM”,  AND decieve many”. So it’s those who are professing JESUS that are the many  decievers. But it’s a different Jesus they are preaching, that’s decieving the many.

Peace and love…[Read more]

T8……who has said,  JESUS IS NOTHING BUT A FLESH BODY? Quite the contary  we believe flesh and blood human beings  are the very highest of God’s creation,  or why would he place “ALL THINGS” under his,  mankinds feet?.  We human brothers and sisters of JESUS, are right along side with him as Joint heirs with him of “All THINGS”.  His very f…[Read more]

JODI……. GOOD JOB, Those who have ears to hear do, those who don’t,  just can’t get it, because if they did their whole house of cards would come crashing down on them, Sad.

In this we know the difference between the many going down the wide path in threat of destruction, and the “FEW” , who enter in the narrow gate, and straight way, that…[Read more]

T8…..WHO said Jesus is not the Lord and the CHRIST,  and who ever said he was not “born” to be that? Youŕ misrepresenting what I or NICK AND JODI have said.  None of us ever said that.

You believe scripture as long as you can force the text to meet your preconcieved ideas, of a preexistence JESUS. That is exactly what a trinitarians do to…[Read more]

T8……Right like Jesus said he was “born” before Abraham.  I never seen that written in any scripture.  You may quote a scripture as it is written but to say you don’t interpret them to fit your own views is not true.  AS I, Jodi, Nick, and others have testified to you.   Those who truly have the SPIRIT OF GOD IN THEM KNOW THE TRUTH, they are…[Read more]

TC…..YES God anointed many people before JESUE and after , king Saul, King DAVID, MOSES, the seventy Elders, JOSHUA,  ALL THE PROPHETS were anointed by GOD. AND AFTER Jesus all true Saints are also anointed by GOD.

As far as Lords (adoni) goes there are thousands if not millions then even this day, all judges, presidents, kings, any kind of…[Read more]

TC……yes JESUS DID RECIEVE COMMANDMENT FROM THE FATHER, that he could sacrifice his life or keep it , the final choice was his. But when he chose to lay down his life, he truly did that and it was God the Father who raised him from the grave, not himself.

You say no big deal, but in fact it is a big deal, because the way you prexisteners…[Read more]

Things to think about.

Who is the “only” human to take his seat in the (true) TEMPLE OF GOD, that is  mentioned in scriptures? Is it not Jesus?

“The LORD said unto my lord sit on my side until I make your enimies your foot stool”

Peace and love to you all and yours. ………gene

To all……MAN WHAT YOU PEOPLE GO THROUGH,  TRYING  TO MAKE PIECES  FIT YOUR RENDITIONS.  But forcing pieces into places they don’t fit only further destorts the real picture.

Jesus never existed till he was born on this earth by his mother,  Mary as a human being,  The holy spirit existed for ever, and came into Jesus at the Jordan river when…[Read more]

To all…….sorry for bringing this topic up over and over, but I truly believe if we could all come to a good understanding of it, it will tell us about the confusion concerning Jesus, and how the original church became corrupted right from the start.. SO PLEASE EVERONE HERE READ IT AGAIN AND LESS TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT WHAT 2THS2 IS REALLY…[Read more]

TC……YOUR MAJOR PROBLEM , Your get the “MAN” Jesus,  mixed up with the WORD CHRIST,  you present the man Jesus as the Christ  himself, he is not the ANOINT-ING, HE IS THE ANOUNT-ED ONE.  BIG DIFFERENCE .

God the father is the anoint-er  he is THE ANOINTING SPIRIT, and he by way of that Anointing was “in” the “MAN” Jesus.  If you look up the o…[Read more]

Anthony……You can see it as you wish,  but to me the nature of God is given to those who are the sons of God, and that is why we are called the sons of God, and call him our father.

Her is one “again” for you,  see where you stand.

1 Ti 2-5…..For this is good and exceptable  in the sight of GOD our Saviour; who will have all men to be sa…[Read more]

Carmel…..You quoted a scripture from Php 2:6., bear with me and I will show you your error.

When it says he existed in the “form” of God, it should read figuratively like this , “he being, or existing with the “nature” of God” would be more accurate,  why “nature” because he had the Holy spirit in him, that is to say GOD THE FATHER’S NATURE…[Read more]

T8…..My motive is the truth, nothing more, that was my motive before I ever became a believer in Jesus , Many many years ago. No your motive is to not except the truth, and so you  kick off those who disagree with your views .

I am not the one forcing text to say what it does not “specifically” say . You read into scriptures like so many do,…[Read more]

Anthony……haven’t you noticed that 30-40 of the translations you used don’t say “I was “born” before,  ABRAHAM, shouldn’t that alone give you a clue that Jesus was not talking about his actual existence as a being.

Let me try to help you here, the Jew trusted that because they were decendents of Abraham they were a special,  people , and t…[Read more]

T8……The Glory JESUS “HAD” WITH  THE FATHER, WAS ALSO A PROPHESIED GLORY, AFFORDED HIM BEFORE HE EVER CAME INTO EXISTENCE. Jesus knew that glory was a promised glory, that scripture clearly shows would be his.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

T8….. why don’t you believe Isa 9:6 then,  as meaning that Jesus was born  back then, it clearly says, a child “IS” BORN, AND A SON “IS” GIVEN.  Don’t you see you are being slective with  that scripture,  and corectly,  because we all know that passage was referencing  the future even though it can be translated as  past tense.  Same thing ap…[Read more]

T8…..let me paraphrase it for you ok. , unto you this day in the town of DAVID, has been “born”, unto you a savior, he is the one who is to be the Messiah.

Scripture also says, “for unto us (human race) a child has “is” born, unto us a son “is” given.”…..

Now using  your logic T8 AND OTHERS, that should mean that Jesus was born way back…[Read more]