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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, I saw “the Son of man decending from Mount Paron, with ten thousands of his Saint’s to execute judgement on the earth, and to convience all of their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly commited. Are we not also doing what Jesus is doing with him?
Has God not called us also along with Jesus for the same purpose ? TO establish…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..The interesting thing is, Jesus sure did not think the words he was telling us was his words, now did he? Or why would he ever say, this, “the words I am telling you are “Not” My words, but the words of him that sent me. ” . TC you have never cleared that hurdle, so why go on with anything else yet, question is do you believe what…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..John used the word was, When describing the beginning, is because it “was” a past event, he was talking about. That should not be hard for anyone to figure out. Why do you see fit to put your twist on that? Why not Go and read Genesis 1:1-5, and come back and tell us who was doing the talking there, is it not the LORD, OUR GOD SPE…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony……”worshiping” Jesus as a “God” , Is your downfall, we on the other hand bow our knee to JESUS, “TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER”. YOU BOW YOUR KNEE AND WORSHIP HIM AS YOUR GOD. Big difference between the way you honor Jesus and the way we do. We see Jesus as a fellow human being, a “man” who God the Father has greately eleva…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The END in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Jodi……right on sis. Good job explaining things it to us all.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 9 months ago
TC….. Good Job at skirting around scriptures , while ignoring the host of other scriptures that say it was the LORD YAHWEH, WHO SPOKE TO THEM , according to a whole host of many scriptures. I am not going to waste my time lesting them all. What I have already listed which you ignored should be enough.
“The word was GOD” , IT WAS NOT SOME…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..word , “intellegent utterance “…if it is from above it is from God, if from below it is from the earth. Just that simple as Jodi has correctly said,
To all……JESUS was sent into the world to preach the “Gospel of the kingdom of God”, “after” he was baptized and recieved the holy spirit and became the “Messiah of God” and was tes…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..I think your wrong , people have heard the word of God before Jesus existed and after him also. Adam and Eve both were speaking to God and he also spoke to them. Also read Dut 5:26 -31, there are many scriptures that God has and does speaks to people . TC , Jesus was telling those Pharisies that “they” haven’t heard his voice nor seen…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Creations of Genesis 1 and John 1 Revised in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..Whose word?, (God’s word ) came into being , that was the word of prophesy that God gave to his prophets , concerning the, “man” Jesus, “it” came into existence as the flesh “MAN” Jesus ( who would become, the anointed one) of God. None of that means Jesus preexisted his birth on this earth as a centinel being, somewhere else.…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The END in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Edj……Why is the truth so irritating to you so?, when we disagree with you people, you start vomiting out your true nature. You are unable to respond to what I wrote in responce to you, so you start you usual garbage of a accusations . By the way the CHRISTO’S IS the Holy Spirit, and is the true bread “from” heaven, it came into the “m…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The END in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Edj……The man Jesus is David Son, Jesus after his anointing became the son of God, just as we do, when we recieve the Holy Spirit, or haven’t you read, “brethern” know you not, that you (you their are anointed brethern) are the sons of God. Like us Jesus was the son of David according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit a son of God,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The END in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Jodi…..I also believe God the Father, planned everything out before it ever existed, and caused it to come into existence and take place according to the time he purposed them to. I also believe Jesus never existed, until his part in that plan was ready to take place at the time of his birth on this earth. All thing work according to God’s ti…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
To all…..“echad”, is a cardinal number, for 1, in the Hebrew language yachid, in Hebrew is very rarely used and has associations, like “lonely” or “solitary “, and has nothing to do with the Hebrew word for number 1 .
I’ll trust the experts not some speculators, who even there own kind say what I have quoted. Not only you do not believe…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, the word “us” implies more then one, we are told that are seven spirits of God, what makes you think he was not talking about those seven spirits, That are before the throne of God?
Now back to the word echad, heres what one of yours says about it, and it not only talks about that, but shows what happens to people who have the kin…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH JODI, when we are resurected we will have a body exactly As Jesus had at his resurection, a body that will never die. A body composed of flesh and bone like he has. We will not come back as spirits, but human flesh and bone beings. You or anyone else has ever produced a single scripture that says Jesus is no lo…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Edj….. Jesus had to be a ordinary human being at birth, he was not perfected at birth or how could he “learn” obedience by by the things he suffered? He grew in favor, and in stature, and in knowledge, all the things we do. God was with him even at birth, like this, “the LORD bless you and keep you, the LORD make his face shine upon you and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony…… i know what you people “see”, but again you couldn’t be more wrong even if you tried, if we take even your own post where you say, “the LORD said, they are one (echad) people, and the all have one (echad) language”. you cleverly or ignorantly, left out the second echad there, so I added it in for you. If we follow your reas…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
T8……We were descussing the word echad , which is the Hebrew word for “one” , this is a cardinal number meaning 1, no more and no less. So understanding that, when Jesus said me and my father are one, he was not talking about one and the same person, as false teachers say but was saying him and the Father were in agreement, and act as one,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, I would say your translator has it totally wrong, the Translator I used was from a bible scholar who knows Hebrew and Greek, you can also ask any JEW who can to count in Hebrew and they will tell you “echad ” is a word for 1, a cardinal number, not two, three, or more anything . The word “yachid” is very rare and has associa…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..You say, the soul has a multude of definitions, that To me is Bull, scripture shows only two, for all creation, you are either a “living soul” or a “dead one”. why not just go by what scripture says a Soul is? Tell us TC, what was Jesus meaning when he said,
Matt 10:28 …..And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able…[Read more]
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