Gene, is that on topic? If not why not start a thread where like-minded individuals will want to engage with you?

Hey t8, this video blew my mind away! It made me realize that no civilian is going to explore the Antarctic.

It mentions the Antartic Treaty and how your application must be approved by what you plan to do there. Do you imagine that if we said, “I want to prove everything you’ve been telling us is a lie”, that it would pass? I’m going to have to…[Read more]

Nick: “Jesus said nothing about a flat earth so the Spirit cannot remind you of his words. He had far more important matters to speak about such as the salvation of your soul. Listen to him”

The scriptures do mention the sun having a circuit and that the sun stood still at one time. These two examples I mentioned explicitly, funny how you m…[Read more]

Two more short points, Lightenup:

This is why Mike is asking for experiments and observations that we can do ourselves. And two, I wanted to thank you for taking this topic and trying hard to prove your point.

Lightenup: “The Christian astronauts are using scripture. Check out the reasons in the scopes articles before you dismiss them.”

My response would mean nothing. It is their testimony and not mine. It is their first-hand account and not mine. How could I judge them as to whether they are telling the truth or not?

What I have seen and…[Read more]

“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”  John 14:26

I know that neither myself or Mike wants to engage in this topic, at least not in this thread. Suffice to say, end of discussion.

Honor th…[Read more]

Lightenup, I have to wonder once again when some are upholding Scripture that the sun has a circuit and that at one time the sun stood still which goes against what is commonly being taught now, how then is it “Christians falling for error”?

Evolution is being taught as well. Is this something that we should “listen to the experts” about? It…[Read more]

Lightenup, here is the last couple of paragraphs from an interesting article. It is not unique because there are many similar articles about snopes.

I’ve actually been reviewing hundreds of Snopes.com articles over the past few years. It takes many years to be able to recognize subtle biases, especially if there is a purposeful obfuscation o…[Read more]

Mike: “It’s the “I don’t remember” that strikes me as the most absurd. You’ve been sent where no man has gone before – to investigate heavens – and you don’t even remember if you could see the heavens while you were up there? Come on, man. 🙂”

Reminds me of another woman who couldn’t recall key facts while under oath!

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Hey t8, your last post reminded me of a video that explains our perception of what we see in the sky. To summarize, we all have a limited viewing distance, about 3 miles in any direction. A similar limit would also include looking up.

From this fact we can establish how objects are perceived in our field of view. As I said before, without taking…[Read more]

Hmmm, quite a solid argument Mike!

Lightenup, what was the earth orbiting before the sun was made?

Mike: “For example? Would you mind listing one of them for discussion purposes?”

Since you you put in a Herculean effort in your post I would be ashamed not to contribute a small portion!

Some of the points that stood out to me:

David (ex-NASA):  Worked for Goddard Space Center

(His words) “No South Pole“. Worked on Data Ingest System to…[Read more]

Wow, which is it stars or no stars???

And not only that but the most brilliant light or thick blackness? Hmm.

Hey David, if you watch the last few minutes of this video (start about 10:30) you will add a lot to the previous video.

Much of of the same information in this vid but if you are really seeking the truth it would be worth watching the whole thing.

This is again made by Rob Skiba. He is doing his best to uphold…[Read more]

Hey David, this short 4 minute video will explain why the bottom disappears and why it looks like it is going down over a horizon. Remember, that this is a known, testable and repeatable example of science. If we make conclusions without taking this into consideration then our result will not be…[Read more]

Hey t8, did you see the vid I posted on the last page? It has a NASA Goddard ex-employee who’s job it was to collect data to map Antartica. Just watch the first 12-15 minutes. The data is still not there! It has not been mapped. The other ex-NASA employee said that she was told that the earth was a plane (flat). Let me know what you think.…[Read more]

Here is an interesting video of two ex-NASA employees that believe in a plane earth.

Several points are made that struck me as profound.

At 35 minutes it is rather lengthy but at least it’s not 4 hours!  ; )

Anthony, you cannot have vision “to all the land” on a sphere. You can however, on a plane earth.

Could it not have been said ONCE, “all around the round earth?” Or “from all over the globe”? Or something similar? Why not?

But 28 times in the scriptures that all represent my view and somehow it is supposed to support your view? Please explain.