Anthony, it’s very simple. You don’t need an “expert” telling you anything.

Can some object overtake another object going a relatively slower rate of speed from your observation point? Yes or no?

If “no” then you have to agree with Mike. Or at the very least explain why physics doesn’t work on your planet.

Sure. These demi-gods have shaped history from the beginning.

satan is called the “god of this world“.

II Cor 4:3-4 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, 4 in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ,…[Read more]

Ok t8, now to point 2:

2) True, The Word became flesh. The Word was with God and WAS God.

Comments?

Your quote T8: “without him nothing was made that has been made.”

What have you to say about that?

T8: “God spoke things into existence: (True or False)

The Word became flesh: (True or False)

The Word was with God in the beginning: (True or False)

Jesus the son of God is the Word become flesh: (True or False)

Jesus is not God become flesh: (True or False)

He is more than a created man: (True or False)

He is the new Adam: (True or…[Read more]

Interesting point Mike. I personally believe that many of these so called gods were the fallen angels and their offspring the Nephilim. Men worshipped them as gods and that seems clear in most historical records of antiquity. To mere mortals they would certainly be godlike.

T8, I was with up to this point; “this is for you too. God created…[Read more]

Nick, which part of “For by Him all things were created” don’t you understands?

And how can you say that “the Spirit of God in Jesus Christ was responsible for creation” and then turn around and say out of the other side of your mouth that Jesus wasn’t there?

Please explain how the Spirit of God could be in someone who wasn’t there!

Nick: “You surprised me when you showed you were unaware that the anointing Holy Spirit was before the man Jesus.”

Gen 1:1-3 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. 3 Then God said,…[Read more]

Nick, Oh, I see His “anointing” existed before Him. Great job of adding to the Scripture. Where does it say ” anointing”? It doesn’t, you added it!

John 1:1-3,14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing…[Read more]

Nick, Oh, I see His “anointing” existed before Him. Great job of adding to the Scripture. Where does it say ” anointing”? It doesn’t, you added it!

John 1:1-3,14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing…[Read more]

<b>Nick</b>: “<span style=”color: #0000ff;”>So your analogy fails.So why did you offer it? The offspring of a cat is another cat but the offspring of God IS NOT another god because that is HERESY. Did you not know that God was IN Christ reconciling the world to Himself? 2 Cor 5.19</span>”

All analogies fail at some point, that’s just the na…[Read more]

Nick: “So you clarification is that the Son of God is a god, like kittens are cats, and bear cubs are bears.”

Absolutly not! That is heresy. Yeshua is not “a” god, He is “the” God in the flesh. Analogies break down especially in this case because there is no comparison to God.

Nick: “So you say the (S)on sic of God is another god?”…[Read more]

Nick: “Hi Dig4, You told us the sons of God are gods and when questioned about this claim never answered. Why is this?”

So now that you have clarified your point can you see that is not what I said at all? I did not say “sons of God” but the only begotten Son of God. There’s a big difference! Clear enough?

And as a side note, this is exa…[Read more]

Nick: “Hi Dig4, You no longer own that position? That is fine.”

Nick, now you know that’s not what I said. I said that you need to quote my post. That way I can see what context it is in. That is the proper way in which we debate topics. I cannot just rely on your memory of what I said.

Nick: “Hi Dig4, You told us the sons of God are gods and when questioned about this claim never answered. Why is this?”

You will have to provide a quote from me on that, I don’t remember it.

The “Sons of God” are angels in Genesis 6.

Mike, I was going to make the same point that we don’t have to go into “space” and look down to know the shape of the earth. We can simply measure the curvature, or lack there of, from the ground.

I guess some are impressed by pretty pictures.

Interesting video, t8. The only thing that was missing was the theme music.

Nick: “Indeed the Spirit of Christ is from eternity. The Word that was with God in the beginning was made flesh at the Jordan and dwelt among us.”

I’m sorry, but the word “spirit”  does not appear in that verse. You may be comfortable adding to the Word but I wouldn’t advise it.

Micah 5:2 “But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Too little to be among the clans of Judah,
From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel.
His goings forth are from long ago,
From the days of eternity.”